The Necklace

[Jessica]

Has anyone read The Necklace before? It's written by a French author, Guy de Maupassant.
for English each group chose a short story to teach to the class. Caitlin and I (yeah just the 2 of us no one else wanted to join me :sad:) chose this short story, The Necklace and this is the objective (in our lesson plan):
Students will be able to identify the irony of the story.
Can anyone explain the irony of the story? I forgot it :sad::worried:
Our lesson plans have to be turned in tomorrow and I have to finish typing up some quiz questions.

[Elaina]

Is this the story about a woman who borrowed a necklace, lost it then thinking it was the real thing bought another one and worked and worked until she paid off the one that she bought then came to find out it wasn't the real thing?

I don't know if this is the story you are referring to.

:confused:

[Jessica]

Yes yes that's it!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Jessica]

please some help me figure out what the irony is....it's one of the quiz questions and I want to make sure I know the answer so I can tell everyone the correct answer when they're done taking a quiz!!

[LRW]

That type of irony is called dramatic irony, though it doesn't fit the textbook definition completely. (I know this because I'm looking at a textbook now.) More to the point Elaina's post sums up the biggest example of irony in the story. Also it seems that Wikipedia is no help on other examples of irony if any are present... Been a while since I read the story...

[sosia]

The irony??
The short story :
The encklace, Guy de Maupassant (http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/Neck.shtml)
What's irony?
Irony is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or does, and what one means or what is generally understood

Discordance: The necklace was understood it was real, and wasn't.
Problem. The woman lost it. In order to avoid a direct conmffomtation, says i'ts borken a buy a new one. She spend 10 years paying it
Real: it was a false one. If they have spoken early, saying "I have lost it but I will pay for it", the friend had sayed it was a copy, and she hasn't suffered for 10 years.

We see a peson who suffers because sie understood that the necklace was real.

saludos :D
PD: A modern example is Alanis Morisette, with the song "Ironic" Album "Little Jagged Pill". Here the discordance it's between what's expected and what we receive.
An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It’s a black fly in your Chardonnay
It’s a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn’t it ironic … don’t you think

[estribillo]
It’s like rain on your wedding day
It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid
It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take
Who would’ve thought … it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids good-bye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
‘Well isn’t this nice…’
And isn’t it ironic … don’t you think

[estribillo]

Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything’s okay and everything’s going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything’s gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face

It’s a traffic jam when you’re already late
It’s a no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It’s like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It’s meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn’t it ironic… don’t you think
A little too ironic… and yeah I really do think…

[estribillo]

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out

[Jessica]

So the irony is.......................???

[Jessica]

is this the irony of the story?
Madame Loisel longs to be rich which is really a fake existence and ends up having her life shaped by a fake necklace.

[poli]

Dramatic irony is a trick that circumstances play on a person's
beliefs or expectations. It's as if circumstances (either good or bad) are playing a trick on the protagonist. It's as if life is giving it's victim the following::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: and sometimes:blackeye:

Then, there's verbal irony, but that's another lesson.hint: it has something to do with the 4th smile down on the left too.

[Jessica]

I think theres a situationary irony right?

[sosia]

there zre differents ironies:
For me, the main irony is: Pretending to be rich one day, ends poorer as she was.

greetings :D

[Jessica]

ohh okay and you spelled "are" wrong, lol you spelled it zre. ;) Did you type too quickly? ^_^
Thanks, I will make that my answer.

[Jessica]

Are these good questions? and answers?
1. Why is Matilda always suffering? She feels that she should have been born into luxury.

2. How is Matilda’s husband different from her? Mr. Loisel seems happy with the very things that depress Mrs. Loisel.

3. How did Matilda and her husband get into the experience of real poverty? They got into debt – they spent a lot of money to buy a diamond necklace to replace the one she lost.

4. What was Mrs. Loisel’s reaction when her husband showed her an invitation for a party? She was angry and spiteful, and asked what she was supposed to do with it.

5. Why is Mrs. Loisel still sad even when she has her dress? She doesn’t have any jewelry to wear.

6. Describe Mrs. Loisel’s feelings when she discovers a superb diamond necklace in Mrs. Forestier’s jewelry case. Her heart began to beat quickly just looking at it. She is blissfully happy.

7. Explain the irony of the story. The irony of the story is: Pretending to be rich one day, and then ends up poorer as she was.

[Jessica]

Just want to know if the answers are O.K.

[Planet hopper]

Excellent job, sosia. Just gorgeous, I love the song.:whistling:

The irony is called in Spanish 'humor negro'. It is not funny for Asians, at least I can say so from my students in China. An Asian would often react sad to this kind of sense of humour.

I'll try to put it straight. When things go so wrong in life, the easier way is to feel bad about it. Sometimes, you get so much bad results from life, by chance, that the initial reaction of sadness and pessimism is replaced by a psychological detachment. Then you contemplate the whole thing and find it funny, ironic.

Don't know if that helped, difficult topic:blackeye:

For example, if you have a car crash and you ruin your da's new car, you have two options: you can cry or you can sit down, watch the car burn and smile, thinking 'How ironic, the first time I drive on my own'

About the necklace: a whole life is such a waste for something that was not even true, it's a loop in fate, ironic.
Choose any adjective you want for the irony in the story, as long as you can explain why you chose that one.

[sosia]

Are these good questions? :thumbsup:Yes, i think so. and answers? :thinking:
1. Why is Matilda always suffering? She feels that she should have been born into luxury.:good:

2. How is Matilda’s husband different from her? Mr. Loisel seems happy with the very things that depress Mrs. Loisel.:good:, but better Mr. Loisel is happy with his life. He doesn't find his life depressing.

3. How did Matilda and her husband get into the experience of real poverty? They got into debt – they spent a lot of money to buy a diamond necklace to replace the one she lost.:good:

4. What was Mrs. Loisel’s reaction when her husband showed her an invitation for a party? She was angry and spiteful, and asked what she was supposed to do with it.:good:, better: She was angry, because she has no proper dress to wear, so better not to go as to go in bad ¿shape?

5. Why is Mrs. Loisel still sad even when she has her dress? She doesn’t have any jewelry to wear. :good:

6. Describe Mrs. Loisel’s feelings when she discovers a superb diamond necklace in Mrs. Forestier’s jewelry case. Her heart began to beat quickly just looking at it. She is blissfully happy.

7. Explain the irony of the story. The irony of the story is: Pretending to be rich one day, and then ends up poorer as she was.

I will ad another question.
9- What have I learned from this story?

[Jessica]

Are these good questions? :thumbsup:Yes, i think so. and answers? :thinking:
1. Why is Matilda always suffering? She feels that she should have been born into luxury.:good:

2. How is Matilda’s husband different from her? Mr. Loisel seems happy with the very things that depress Mrs. Loisel.:good:, but better Mr. Loisel is happy with his life. He doesn't find his life depressing.

3. How did Matilda and her husband get into the experience of real poverty? They got into debt – they spent a lot of money to buy a diamond necklace to replace the one she lost.:good:

4. What was Mrs. Loisel’s reaction when her husband showed her an invitation for a party? She was angry and spiteful, and asked what she was supposed to do with it.:good:, better: She was angry, because she has no proper dress to wear, so better not to go as to go in bad ¿shape?

5. Why is Mrs. Loisel still sad even when she has her dress? She doesn’t have any jewelry to wear. :good:

6. Describe Mrs. Loisel’s feelings when she discovers a superb diamond necklace in Mrs. Forestier’s jewelry case. Her heart began to beat quickly just looking at it. She is blissfully happy.

7. Explain the irony of the story. The irony of the story is: Pretending to be rich one day, and then ends up poorer as she was.

I will ad another question.
8- What have I learned from this story?

Thanks! I will show the questions and answers to my partner, and if she approves of it, we will use them. We are either presenting today (Monday) or Tuesday or even Wednesday.
I am really nervous :P

[sosia]

Don't be nervous. You will made it good.
You must look at the faces of the persons while you speak.
Greetings :D
PD: Being two, it's easy to make a play, instead of presenting.
The one with better voice should be the narrator.
The other (with better actor's skills) should be Mathilda.
The actress can "speak" for the husband and the rich friennd.
It will be only 5 minutes and all the people will understand the story

[Jessica]

no, our presentation has to be 10-15 minutes, and since no one wanted to join me, there's only 2 of us and I'm not very good at speaking in front of the whole class. It's 36 points and I really want to do well on it. If I do bad, my partner gets the same grade.

[sosia]

I said 5 minutes to make the "theater "thing. Then you can speak a little about it, and your 10-15 minutes are gone. I'm sure the teacher will find it positive, but if you're afraid, it's no problem.

"since no one wanted to join me, there's only 2 of us"
Must be "since only one wanted to jpin me, there's only 2 of us" :D :D

You will make it good. Don't worry yourself.
saludos :D