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Equis January 01, 2010 09:48 AM

I would like to know what verb tenses are mostly used in modern spanish.
As of now I am fairly well with present, preterit, imperfect, conditional, future, present-perfect, present subjenctive.

How widely used is imperfect subjenctive,future subjenctive,conditional subjenctive, perfect subjenctive, etc.

stuff like that. I know its kind of confusing; I just want to know the most commonly used verb tenses. Thanks

Rusty January 01, 2010 10:31 AM

The future subjunctive is not used in modern Spanish, but can be found in literary works and a couple of sayings.

All the other tenses are used in everyday speech. You'll need to know how to use them all.

Perikles January 01, 2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Equis (Post 67218)
How widely used is imperfect subjenctive,future subjenctive,conditional subjenctive, perfect subjenctive, etc.

There is no such thing as a conditional subjunctive. The two subjunctives you really need to know are the present and imperfect, because they are used all the time.

Equis January 01, 2010 02:54 PM

thanks, that clears that up.

how about the perfect, what tenses use this the most. I know the basic perfect endings like hablado,dicho,etc.

yo he habldo- i have talked

how often used is say, yo haya hablado, yo hubiera hablado?

pjt33 January 01, 2010 04:42 PM

Not much. The main usage which springs to mind for the perfect subjunctive is verb-of-emotion + QUE + subjunctive: e.g. "Me gusta que hayas mostrado el deseo de aprender".

And for the pluperfect subjunctive is SI [NO] + pluperfect subjunctive + perfect conditional: e.g. "Si no hubieras preguntado eso, no habría tenido que construir este ejemplo".

bobjenkins January 03, 2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Equis (Post 67237)
thanks, that clears that up.

how about the perfect, what tenses use this the most. I know the basic perfect endings like hablado,dicho,etc.

yo he habldo- i have talked

how often used is say, yo haya hablado, yo hubiera hablado?

Hola,

Usualmente he oído el perfecto usado así

1 Perfecto del indicativo
He oído:D - I´ve heard
Has dicho - You have said
Habremos estado - We shall have been

2 Pluscamperfecto del indicativo, un tiempo pasado
Había oído - I had heard
Habías dicho - You had said
Habíamos estado - We had been

3 Perfecto del Subjuntivo
También hay un tiempo así (con el subjuntivo), he puesto en la letra itálica las frase que requieren el subjuntivo
Haya oído - Les gusta que haya oído sus canciones - They like that I have heard thier songs
Hayas dicho - Es bueno que hayas dicho esas palabras porque sean palabras desnudas - It´s great that you´ve said that because its the truth
Vayamos a haber estado - Lástima que vayamos a haber estado descansados después un corto recorrido - It´s a pity that we are going to be tired after this short run ("ir" es usado aquí porque como dijo Rusty nunca los españoles use el subjuntivo futuro , a excepción de las obras viejas y los documentales del ley (legal documents)

4 Pluscamperfecto del Subjuntivo
Usado en casos parecidos como número 2 que requieren el subjuntivo. También un tiempo pasado
Hubiera oído - Si hubiera oído eso, nadie estaría confundido - If I would have heard that then nobody would be confused
Hubieras dicho -
Les gustaba que eso hubieras dicho- They liked that you said that
Hubiéramos estado
- Una lástima que hubiéramos estado tal descansados después un corto recorrido - It was a shame that we had been so tired after a short run

Espero tener razón en mis explicaciones y que te ayuden :D

Perikles January 04, 2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 67401)
1 Perfecto del indicativo
He oído:D - I´ve heard
Has dicho - You have said
Habremos estado - We shall have been

Bob - I think here you are combining two distinct tenses, the perfect (He oído, Has dicho ) and the future perfect (Habremos estado). I'm sure it's easier to consider them as different. :)

bobjenkins January 04, 2010 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 67456)
Bob - I think here you are combining two distinct tenses, the perfect (He oído, Has dicho ) and the future perfect (Habremos estado). I'm sure it's easier to consider them as different. :)

Oops , estás en lo cierto :)


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