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People,

I ran across the following sentence:

"Hizo trisas el florero".

I think that something is strange here. It stipulates that a person, third person singular, broke the flower vase.

I think that more common would be: "Se hizo trisas el florero". Right?

If a person did it, third person signular, wouldn't the preposition "a" be necessary? "Hizo trisas al florero".

If I had broken it, I think that I would say: "¡Ay! Se hizo trisas. Perdone".

Dean

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Originally Posted by deandddd (Post 179904)

People,

I ran across the following sentence:

"Hizo ~~trisas~~ trizas el florero".

I think that something is strange here. It stipulates that a person, third person singular, broke the flower vase.

I think that more common would be: "Se hizo ~~trisas~~ trizas el florero". Right?

"Se hizo trizas el florero" is an example of passive "se": it implies that the damage happened by itself or accidentally.

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Originally Posted by deandddd (Post 179904)

If a person did it, third person signular, wouldn't the preposition "a" be necessary? "Hizo ~~trisas~~ trizas al el florero".

No, "a" would not be used here. Using the preposition "a" before a direct object typically happens when the noun is a definite noun AND the noun refers to or names a person or personified being. Otherwise most of the time no preposition is used.

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Originally Posted by deandddd (Post 179904)

If I had broken it, I think that I would say: "¡Ay! Se hizo ~~trisas~~ trizas. Perdone".

Dean

Yes, that implies that you did not intentionally break it.

WR Holt,

You nailed it! Thanks!

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Dean