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bmarquis124 March 29, 2009 04:29 PM

Vámonos
 
Can you explain the construction of vamanos to me? I understand it means let's go, but I don't understand why the s in vamos is dropped...or when to use vayamos instead. :thinking:

chileno March 29, 2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmarquis124 (Post 30139)
Can you explain the construction of vamanos to me? I understand it means let's go, but I don't understand why the s in vamos is dropped...or when to use vayamos instead. :thinking:

I would help you, but I am grammatically challenged! :(

All I remember vayamos is the subjunctive. But that's about it.

For the life of me, I cannot remember how it is called the part "nos" :duh:

So that I could try to start helping you.

Rusty March 29, 2009 07:05 PM

Vámonos is a very common phrase, but is a degenerate form of the imperative vayámonos (1st-person plural imperative of irse, which means to leave). This is a pronominal verb. The -nos suffix is a reflexive pronoun.

To form the imperative in this person, the normal -s ending is dropped before suffixing the pronoun -nos. A similar thing happens with the 2nd-person plural reflexive pronoun, where the normal -d ending is dropped before suffixing the pronoun -os. Have a look at the charts below.

It may be easier to look at a regular verb first.

Here is levantar in the imperative:
 yo  (X)  nosotros,-as  levantemos 
 tú  levanta  vosotros,-as  levantad 
 él, ella, usted  levante  ellos, ellas, ustedes  levanten 

Here is levantarse in the imperative:
 yo  (X)  nosotros,-as  levantémonos 
 tú  levántate  vosotros,-as  levantaos 
 él, ella, usted  levántese  ellos, ellas, ustedes  levántense 

Now, here is the irregular verb ir in the imperative:
 yo  (X)  nosotros,-as  vayamos 
 tú  vé  vosotros,-as  id 
 él, ella, usted  vaya  ellos, ellas, ustedes  vayan 

Here is irse in the imperative (note the exception to the drop-the-d-in-2nd-person-plural rule for this verb):
 yo  (X)  nosotros,-as  vayámonos 
 tú  vete  vosotros,-as  idos 
 él, ella, usted  váyase  ellos, ellas, ustedes  váyanse 


AngelicaDeAlquezar March 29, 2009 09:05 PM

I agree with Rusty. The correct expression should be "vayámonos".

I think it comes from the use of "¡vamos!" as "let's go!"

"Vámonos" is like saying in English "let's get out of here".

CrOtALiTo March 30, 2009 08:35 PM

Vamonos (Lest go)

lee ying March 30, 2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 30294)
Vamonos (Lest go)

a bit correction:
let`s go : come on: it`s the same . Vamonos is most used than Vayamonos this is used when we are talking with a old person (gente grande).

CrOtALiTo March 30, 2009 11:56 PM

I didn't understand you. You are telling me that the word Les't go is used to say old people or what?

I don't find sence it.

Or you explain me more because, so I won't understand you.

lee ying March 31, 2009 10:12 PM

no , te corregí la palabra let´s go!!! y la palabra que se usa mas comun para habla con personas grandes es mejor decir vayamonos a que digamos vamonos, digo suena mas con respeto! ¨eso dije, pero no se como se dice en ingles personas mayores? ahora me entiendes!

Rusty April 01, 2009 06:33 AM

Lee Ying:
Muestra respeto a los mayores/ancianos.
= Respect your elders.

los mayores = elders, anyone older than you
los ancianos = the elderly, the elders, old people (con cautela)

lee ying April 01, 2009 11:07 AM

Vamanos
 
I thank you rusty , I liked your answer!!*_* now, I know new word!


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