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funkcanna August 11, 2018 04:35 AM

Direct Object Pronoun 'los' Used as a Prepositional Object
 
Hi, can anyone help with this sentence:

"...algunos de los son muy oscuros.."

In the beginning of the sentence (not shown) it refers to images. Would "los" be the correct pronoun in this instance to refer to "them"?

Its meant to say "Some of them are very dark"

Rusty August 11, 2018 08:47 AM

I would say algunos de ellos, and so would most native speakers. That said, I was surprised to find a couple of places online where the 'wrong' pronoun was being used. It may just be a mistake or a regionalism.
A ver que opinan los demás.

funkcanna August 11, 2018 12:39 PM

Thanks! I don’t know why but I though that ellos referred to people only ��

wrholt August 12, 2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by funkcanna (Post 174540)
Thanks! I don’t know why but I though that ellos referred to people only ��

It may be a case of unconsciously applying the English rule that restricts using he/him and she/her to referring only to living beings or to personified things that have an associated biological sex or social gender, and otherwise requires using 'it'.

The Spanish rules for choosing a third-person subject pronoun or object of a preposition are different: the choice between él (ellos) = he/him/it (them) and ella (ellas) = she/her/it (them) is determined by the grammatical gender and number of the noun that names the thing(s) that the pronoun refers to.

(The neuter subject/object pronoun "ello" = "it" cannot be used to refer to something named or nameable by a noun. "Ello" can refer only to an idea or concept for which there is no equivalent noun, and often one can use a demonstrative pronoun such as "esto" or "eso" instead of "ello".)

poli August 12, 2018 10:30 PM

I wonder how the movie "It" was translated to Spanish or what Cousin It from the Addams Family is called in Spanish, Primo Cosa:thinking:?

Rusty August 13, 2018 12:03 AM

The Addams Family = Los Locos Addams
Cousin Itt = Tio Cosa

It = It (en España), Eso (en México), It: El Payaso Asesino (en Argentina)
Pennywise = El Payaso Pennywise


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