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spanishloverlouise March 15, 2010 03:54 PM

Pronunciation?
 
I think pronounciation is one of the important things that you should do when you begin your journey learning spanish.

i found this video very useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc02Ohhnuxs

Rusty March 15, 2010 04:32 PM

Sorry, but this guy has not mastered Spanish pronunciation at all. He speaks with an American English accent, and even messed up a couple of words.

If you're serious about learning how to pronounce Spanish words, look for other videos presented by native speakers of the language and listen carefully. There are VERY few Spanish letters that are pronounced like American English letters.

spanishloverlouise March 16, 2010 08:59 AM

Thanks Rusty,
here is a video with a native speaker it's actually a lot better than the first video i put up. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZpE-s4sv8

irmamar March 16, 2010 11:38 AM

A native speaker, but... where from?

Here you can hear the Spanish pronunciation from Spain:



This one is Latin American Spanish, but I can't tell you where it is from:



:)

chileno March 16, 2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanishloverlouise (Post 76518)
I think pronounciation is one of the important things that you should do when you begin your journey learning spanish.

i found this video very useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc02Ohhnuxs

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanishloverlouise (Post 76585)
Thanks Rusty,
here is a video with a native speaker it's actually a lot better than the first video i put up. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZpE-s4sv8

Louise:

Where are you from?

Can't you discern that those speakers were Anglophones? And native at that? :)

Please don't get me wrong, it is helpful indeed, but you cannot confuse them as native.

I am a Spanish native speaker. I sure can help somewhat with English accent to other Spanish speakers, but I would never, not with my actual accent anyway, to a native English speaker. :-)

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 16, 2010 01:01 PM

The second link Louise has posted has good hints on how to pronounce vowels. :)

@Irma: The voice in your second link doesn't show where from South America the accent is. The list of words seems to me Argentine, but the stress of "v" and "ll"/"y" don't fit. I think the speaker is a Brazillian. :D

chileno March 16, 2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 76626)
The second link Louise has posted has good hints on how to pronounce vowels. :)

@Irma: The voice in your second link doesn't show where from South America the accent is. The list of words seems to me Argentine, but the stress of "v" and "ll"/"y" don't fit. I think the speaker is a Brazillian. :D

No es argentina ni chilena y no me parece brasileña tampoco. Pareciera que es de más al norte.

Es difícil de esclarecer porque no tiene mucho acento de ninguna parte. Digo que es más septentrional porque como pronuncia la jota, bastante suave, pero no tan suave para decir que es cubana. :)

bobjenkins March 16, 2010 02:12 PM

Muchas gracias por escribirlos , en ésos puedo diferenciar de "a" que habla un nativo. No lo explico , pero me suenan diferentes :) ¿Son k y w letras oficiales del lenguaje , o "loan letters", porque nunca las he visto en palabras españolas :thinking:

chileno March 16, 2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 76632)
Muchas gracias por escribirlos , en ésos puedo diferenciar de "a" que habla un nativo. No lo explico , pero me suenan diferentes :) ¿Son k y w letras oficiales del lenguaje , o "loan letters", porque nunca las he visto en palabras españolas :thinking:

My answer would be: Open a Spanish dictionary, not a bilingual one.

¡Flojo! :)

Rusty March 16, 2010 02:39 PM

K and W are found in loanwords, true, but are considered part of the Spanish alphabet. Kilómetro is one Spanish word that contains a 'k'. It doesn't exist in English in that form. There are several others. Wáter, whisky, and waterpolo are all Spanish words. They don't exist in those forms in English.

"Las veintinueve letras del alfabeto español son: a, b, c, ch, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, ll, m, n, ñ, o, p, q, r, s, t u, v, w x, y, z.
Los dígrafos ch y ll son considerados letras del alfabeto, pero por un acuerdo de la Asociación de las Academias de la Lengua Española, celebrado en 1994, se decidió que, exclusivamente para la ordenación alfabética, la ch y la ll no se consideran letras independientes. El dígrafo rr nunca fue considerado una letra del abecedario español."


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