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elmonorojo July 20, 2013 07:53 AM

Learning your third language
 
For those of you are trilingual, how did you become that way? Did you grow up in this manner? What languages do you speak?

Did you experience great difficulty progressing from bilingual to trilingual ability?

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Para ustedes que son trilingües, cómo lo hicieron? Hablaban múltiples lenguas en casa de niño? Cuales lenguas hablan?

Era muy difícil para obtener fluidéz en un tercera idioma?

Premium July 20, 2013 08:52 AM

Well, I grew up speaking three languages. I learned Albanian and Serbian as an infant, as my parents are from Kosovo and Montenegro. German would be my third language, though I was born and raised in Austria.

difinturGM August 05, 2013 02:30 PM

I am American by blood. So American english (notice the lowercase e) is my base. But I understand basic Latin and have a decent enough vocabulary. I know a little Chinese,
but Spanish is my best held extra language. It's not difficult to learn another, in conversation it can be difficult if you are nervous. Because you may swap a word or two haha. I do it all the time.

Felino August 07, 2013 03:50 AM

My mother tonge is German. At school I learn English as my first foreign language and (unfortunately) Latin as my second. Spanish (which I learn by myself) is my fourth language, and I can say, it's not very difficult to get along with four languages. My grandmother even speaks eight languages: Her mother tongue is German. At school she learned English, French and Latin (but her French isn't that good and I think she cannot really speak Latin because they only translated texts at school.) Then she became a teacher of Russian and English. Because she was interested in those Slavonic languages she also learned Polish, Czech and Ukrainian, which she fluently speeks until now. My grandma takes away my doubts that your brain sometime is full and you only can learn a few languages.

Esppiral October 16, 2013 05:05 PM

Spanish is my mother tongue, I started learning catalan at the age of 3 or so... so I speak it fluently, at native level , english and german came way later at school.

Dicho esto me da bastante vergüenza escribir en inglés en este foro con la cantidad de nativos que hay y lo bien que hablan el castellano comparado con mi paupérrimo inglés.:blackeye:

Villa October 17, 2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elmonorojo (Post 140543)
For those of you are trilingual, how did you become that way? Did you grow up in this manner? What languages do you speak?

Did you experience great difficulty progressing from bilingual to trilingual ability?

_____________________________________________

Para ustedes que son trilingües, cómo lo hicieron? Hablaban múltiples lenguas en casa de niño? Cuales lenguas hablan?

Era muy difícil para obtener fluidéz en un tercera idioma?

Elmonorojo,

No, no era difícil para mi aprender un tercer idioma.
Aprendí italiano cuando viví dos años en Italia. Luego volví a
los EE.UU. y aprendí español. La transición de la lengua italiana
a la lengua española fue bastante fácil para mí. (Un amigo mexicano
mio que habia vivido conmigo en Italia aprendió italiano en tres semanas.
El español y el italiano son 70+% similar.)
Entonces aprendí a hablar portugués y el francés, porque sabía el italiano
y el español.
Esta es otra buena razón para aprender español.

En resumen, no es difícil aprender un tercer idioma especialmente cuando tu tercera
lengua después del español es el italiano, portugués, francés u otro idioma que
proviene de la lengua latina.

Mkkl November 08, 2013 09:02 AM

I think you should learn other languages when you are young. I'm Dutch, so I speak Dutch, can speak fluently English, can speak a little German and French and now I'm trying to learn Spanish on my own. We learn three other languages at school when we are 12 years old.

Premium November 08, 2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkkl (Post 144625)
We learn three other languages at school when we are 12 years old.

I highly doubt that's efficient.

poli November 11, 2013 08:30 AM

I think that becoming polyglot is very possible, but it's culturally defined.
In countries like the Netherlands, so many native speakers also know a second or third language. This, of course, is not the case in nearby Great Britain. I don't think it's because Dutch people are smarter than British people; it's because people are expected to learn other languages there.

Liquinn3 November 14, 2013 09:53 AM

I was going to learn Catalan but I think learning Italian, French or something else would be better to learn. Thoughts?

iCurvaceous November 18, 2013 02:34 PM

Well, I'm from the Caribbean, and since I am living in such a diverse cultural area with many languages spoken, it is hard to not come across learning more than one language. English being my first, Spanish second, French third. My island speaks English and Spanish most fluently and I learned French in college along with our trip to islands that spoke French like St. Martin. It isn't hard, but it takes constant use of any language to maintain being fluent in it.

Esppiral November 25, 2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 144880)
I was going to learn Catalan but I think learning Italian, French or something else would be better to learn. Thoughts?

As much as I love the catalan language, I must admit you should learn any other language instead..., French or Italian will allow you to communicate with much more people around the world than catalan will allow you to, those who speak catalan also speaks french, spanish or Italian as well ( the vast majority) so go for one of those.

Villa November 25, 2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Esppiral (Post 145133)
As much as I love the catalan language, I must admit you should learn any other language instead..., French or Italian will allow you to communicate with much more people around the world than catalan will allow you to, those who speak catalan also speaks french, spanish or Italian as well ( the vast majority) so go for one of those.

Esppiral,

You're right about people who speak Catalan also speak French, Spanish or Italian.
When I was going to school in Italy I met some people who spoke Catalan and they
understood everything I said in Italian. It's not so much that they speak French
and Italian it's more like they can just understand because Catalan is similar to French
and Italian. Actually contrary to popular belief Catalan is even more similar to Italian
than to French but then again Italian is also similar to French. Italian has the rolled
r sound and Italian vowels are the same as Spanish vowel sounds. Further more Italian
has the ñ sound too.

julia1991 November 27, 2013 03:44 AM

I would like to learn French but have problems with pronunciation...can someone recommend how to improve it?

Premium November 27, 2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by julia1991 (Post 145179)
I would like to learn French but have problems with pronunciation...can someone recommend how to improve it?

https://www.google.at/search?client=...iation&spell=1

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...unciation&sm=3

Liquinn3 November 27, 2013 06:25 AM

I really want to learn Catalan for some reason since they speak in Barcelona.

Villa November 28, 2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 145184)
I really want to learn Catalan for some reason since they speak in Barcelona.

Liquinn,
All the Latin based languages are similar. I learned Italian,
Spanish, Portuguese and French. If you learn to speak Spanish
you can learn all the other Latin based languages including
Catalan. Actually one of the main benefits of learning Spanish
is that it gives you a base to learn one or all of the other Latin
languages.

Liquinn3 November 28, 2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villa (Post 145208)
Liquinn,
All the Latin based languages are similar. I learned Italian,
Spanish, Portuguese and French. If you learn to speak Spanish
you can learn all the other Latin based languages including
Catalan. Actually one of the main benefits of learning Spanish
is that it gives you the base ti learn one or all of the other Latin
languages.

Claro. Tengo un problema. ¿dónde puedo practicar?

Villa November 28, 2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 145209)
Claro. Tengo un problema. ¿dónde puedo practicar?

Lo que tienes que hacer es escuchar el catalan primero.
Busca en el internet ejemplos del catalan hablando.
La clave de aprender un idioma en el principio no es
hablar sino escuchar y entender. No se puede hablar
bien una lengua sin entender.
Compra libros que te enseña el catalan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia1991 (Post 145179)
I would like to learn French but have problems with pronunciation...can someone recommend how to improve it?

You need books and bilingual French dictionaries that have the
phonetic pronunciation of the French words. Same goes for
Spanish beginners too but even more so for French since French
is more difficult to pronounce.

tetsuo January 09, 2014 06:00 AM

All you need is the will to do so. ;-)
My mother tongue's German, but learned in English right after Elementary School and started learning Spanish and Dutch two years ago. Due to much curiosity I even checked out Turkish and French plus Portuguese / Brazilian Portuguese and Italian. But my learning is fixed on Spanish and sometimes Dutch right now. Spanish is getting bbetter with every day.

I even found a new web-series for Spanish-learning:
Extr@ Español 7
Found in the youtube channel:
It has subtitles for Spanish, Russian and English.

Valeria January 22, 2014 04:52 AM

Tetsuo, de verdad! Yo he visto todos los episodios de extr@! La mejor producción hicieron les alemáns (es decir - les actores mejores), eso es seguro! Pero sera inútil para ti.

En la versión de España, no me gusto actor rubia. Ella juega su papel demasiado en serio. No tiene sentido de la comedia, en mi opinión. Pero, aprendo español como resultado de sus griteríos. Eso es seguro...

Liquinn3 January 26, 2014 08:22 AM

Quiero aprender catalán en mi casa pero no tengo mucho tiempo. Bueno, la verdad es que llevo estudiando español desde hace dieciséis meses. De hecho, creo que los idiomas son importantes, difíciles e interesantes pero siempre hay algo que aprender. Personalmente, admito que hay muchas cosas que me gustaría aprender con el tiempo pero estoy muy ocupado.

Villa January 30, 2014 10:43 AM

El hecho importante es que una vez que sepa un idioma basado en el latín
los otros idiomas son fáciles de aprender. Por ejemplo, yo aprendí italiano
primero y luego español, portugués, francés y catalán. Todo porque aprendí
un idioma latin primer podía aprender los demás. Esta es otra razón para
aprender el español.

The importante fact is that once you know one Latin language then the other
Latin languages are easy to learn. For example I learned Italian first and then
Spanish, Portuguese, French and Catalan. All because I learned one Latin
language I could learn the others. This is another good reason to learn Spanish.

Disposal February 11, 2014 06:02 AM

I was born in Poland and both of my parents are from there. At the age of 4 years I went to Spain and I grew up speaking Spanish all the time. Now I am trying to learn English so it is like if I were trilingual, but I have a lot to do yet. At the begining everything was difficult for me and I couldn't say nothing, but after a few month of learning here are the results, now I can say something but it is not enough. If you really want something you can do it!

Villa March 02, 2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Disposal (Post 147041)
I was born in Poland and both of my parents are from there. At the age of 4 years I went to Spain and I grew up speaking Spanish all the time. Now I am trying to learn English so it is like if I were trilingual, but I have a lot to do yet. At the begining everything was difficult for me and I couldn't say nothing, but after a few month of learning here are the results, now I can say something but it is not enough. If you really want something you can do it!

¡Vale!:) Hola Disposal. ¿Cómo están las cosas hoy para ti?
Te felicito por aprender el español. ¿Así que también puedes
escribir y leer el español, amigo mío?

¿Has intentado a aprender el italiano/catalan o portuguese?
Si conoces el español el italiano es mucho mas fácil que el
frances. Y cuando se sabe como hablar el italiano luego el
francés es más fácil para aprender. Aprendí italiano luego el
francés y luego el español. También el portuguese.

sand00 April 12, 2017 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felino (Post 141161)
My mother tonge is German. At school I learn English as my first foreign language and (unfortunately) Latin as my second. Spanish (which I learn by myself) is my fourth language, and I can say, it's not very difficult to get along with four languages. My grandmother even speaks eight languages: Her mother tongue is German. At school she learned English, French and Latin (but her French isn't that good and I think she cannot really speak Latin because they only translated texts at school.) Then she became a teacher of Russian and English. Because she was interested in those Slavonic languages she also learned Polish, Czech and Ukrainian, which she fluently speeks until now. My grandma takes away my doubts that your brain sometime is full and you only can learn a few languages.

Wow, that is really incredible. We are all capable of multi-tasking. We just have to train our minds to do so and be comfortable with it.

Sancho Panther May 22, 2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by difinturGM (Post 141128)
American english (notice the lowercase e)

I did notice the lower case 'e' - and I wondered why you employed it, surely the upper case 'E' is correct for the name of the language on both sides of the Atlantic?


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