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Tyrn December 09, 2019 10:40 AM

Escarabajo
 
Hi,

Today I've learned that any Coleoptera bug es un escarabajo. Is there a way to pinpoint the specific way of life? I mean, making balls of dung for a living? Escarabajo de mierda is my first guess, probably incorrect :p .

poli December 09, 2019 12:00 PM

In Spanish escarabajo is, to my knowledge, a generic term for beetle. It certainly corresponds with the English term, scarab which is the dung beetle and not a Cleopatra bug. I looked up Cleopatra bug and found that it pertains to a certain class centipedes. Centipedes are not beetles and it would appear to be wrong to call them escarabajos. Be careful of that m word which translates as the English s word. These coarse words have their place, but lose their force if overused as is commonly done lately. Consider using heces or excremento instead.

Rusty December 09, 2019 01:10 PM

A dictionary gives three different ways to say 'dung beetle.' In order, according to number of hits on the internet:
escarabajo pelotero
escarabajo estercolero
escarabajo coprófrago


The Spanish word for any beetle is escarabajo. In English, we differentiate the various beetles by adding a descriptive adjective - Japanese beetle, June beetle, Scarab (beetle)/dung beetle, African Goliath beetle, etc. They do the same thing in Spanish.

Tyrn December 10, 2019 04:09 AM

Thanks!

To poli:

It isn't Cleopatra, it's Coleoptera.

poli December 10, 2019 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrn (Post 177776)
Thanks!

To poli:

It isn't Cleopatra, it's Coleoptera.

Oh, I thought it was a typo.

Sancho Panther December 20, 2019 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 177769)
descriptive adjective

is a tautology - there are no other kinds of adjective than descriptive ones.

AngelicaDeAlquezar December 20, 2019 01:49 PM

Oh no, Sancho. There are also possessive adjectives (my, your, ...), demonstrative adjectives (this, these, ...), ordinal adjectives (first, second, ...), and I'm sure I'm forgetting some others. ;)

Sancho Panther December 21, 2019 05:52 AM

The examples you cite don't alter the fact that that an adjective is always descriptive and descriptive adjective is still a tautology.

"My, your" and "This and these" are pronouns.

Rusty December 25, 2019 02:36 PM

@Sancho: Descriptive adjectives is correct terminology (see here).
That site also gives examples of possessive adjectives, demonstrative adjectives, quantitative adjectives, distributive adjectives, and interrogative adjectives (the three English articles are also listed).

You'll find many sites that type English adjectives by function. The number varies. Some use different terminology.
Some classify possessive adjectives, demonstrative adjectives, quantitative adjectives, distributive adjectives, and articles as determiners. But even then I found them saying, "determiners, and other adjectives, precede the noun they modify," effectively lumping all of the types into one group.

No matter how you slice it, not all adjectives are alike. So, a term that describes them -a descriptive adjective- is often pressed into service.


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