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er610 October 02, 2011 02:27 PM

Ser or Estar
 
La silla.....roto. (Which verb ser or estar should I use and why?)

Rusty October 02, 2011 04:11 PM

Welcome to the forums!

Have a look at this thread to see if it answers your question.

AngelicaDeAlquezar October 03, 2011 03:17 PM

Also, the noun and the adjective must agree. "Silla" is a feminine, so there is need for a feminine adjective. ;)

Tomisimo October 03, 2011 04:00 PM

Does it help if I say you normally use estar for changeable conditions and characteristics?

wafflestomp October 09, 2011 03:00 PM

Can you fix the chair and change that broken condition (even if it isn't cost effective to do that) or is it broken forever regardless of what you do?

The way I was taught was originally all that health location temporary condition stuff, but one of my newer teachers simplified it. Just location and temporary condition for when you use estar. That's it. Everything else is ser, regardless. The desk is in the building -- el escritorio está en el edificio. Rachel is sick -- Rachel está enferma (hint, that feminine on enferma has to do with your chair thing)

Rusty October 09, 2011 04:14 PM

Your teacher's method seems a bit too simplistic.
You don't always use estar for location. ;)

Where is the concert?
¿Dónde es el concierto?

An event always takes ser because it isn't an object with a location. That said, if the event is on foot (marching band), you could use estar to inquire about its present location.

wafflestomp October 09, 2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 117649)
Your teacher's method seems a bit too simplistic.
You don't always use estar for location. ;)

Where is the concert?
¿Dónde es el concierto?

An event always takes ser because it isn't an object with a location. That said, if the event is on foot (marching band), you could use estar to inquire about its present location.

True. I actually knew that from this site when someone taught me a while ago here about dónde es la fiesta lol

But again American students are taught HLTC - health location temporary condition. So still the event is left out of there and you really have to figure that out on your own.

AngelicaDeAlquezar October 10, 2011 11:22 AM

Maybe something that should be taught specifically: when the subject has some quality or condition that is the result of an action, a transformation or a change, we use "estar":

·Los ladrones están presos.
·Mis plantas están marchitas.
·El coche está descompuesto.
·Nuestra mascota está muerta.
·Tu tobillo está fracturado.
·Sus ilusiones están deshechas.
·Esta casa está muy sucia.


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