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Liquinn3 August 21, 2013 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Villa (Post 142004)
They say people learn best when there is a need to learn or an opportunity to learn. I lived in Italy so I had a need and a desire to learn Italian. I live in California where there are many Spanish speakers so I learned Spanish. I was around Brazilian Portuguese speakers so I learned Portuguese.

Learn Spanish well and then if you ever have a need to learn Portuguese, Italian or French you'll have a strong background to do so with your Spanish. Learning one of any of the Latin based languages is at the same time learning some of all of them. This is the beauty of learning Spanish it's will help you learn all the Latin based languages. Just another good reason to learn Spanish.



Buena pregunta, mi amiguito. Me gusta la cultura brasileña. La música, el baile y la gente. Tengo amigos que han ido a Brasil y no quieren volver.

Hace años mi sobrino fue a Brasil como estudiante de intercambio. Vivía con una familia brasileña y iba a una escuela brasileña. Le escribia en español y él me escribia en portugués. Yo le entendía y el me podía entender. A su regreso de Brasil vivió conmigo por un tiempo. Le enseñé español y él me enseñó portugués. Fuimos a los restaurantes brasileños, partidos de fútbol de Brasil y al carnaval brasileño en Hollywood, California. Más tarde tuve estudiantes brasileños en mis clases de inglés y aprendí más Portugures con ellos. Finalmente empecé a tomar clases de Jiu-Jitsu brasileño con los Gracies y los Machado de Brasil y hablaba portugués con ellos. La mayoría, si no todos los hablantes de portugués aquí en California han aprendido a hablar español porque es facil para ellos. ¿Qué te parece amigo?

Muchas gracias por tu información, Villa. :) Muy bien. Quiero ir a Portugal pero prefiero España. Entiendo tu razón. :) Por ahora, estoy interesado en la lengua español. Quiero aprender japonés, español y otras idiomas pero no mucho tiempo. Por ahora, estoy contento con mi segundo idioma. :) Los idiomas son muy fascinantes para mí.

¿Prefieres el español o el portugués? :)

zuma022 August 21, 2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Premium (Post 142001)
Maybe you'd get confused if you pick up Dutch and Afrikaans or Flemish at the same time. I can't really compare those three languages but they must be very similar.
I wanted to learn Portuguese, too, but firstly I barely have time to learn Spanish and secondly the similarities would drive me nuts.
As you mentioned once that your Spanish level should be around B2, I don't really think you'll have any struggle with Portuguese.

It wouldn't take me long if I'd learn Russian, Polish, Slovakian or any other Slavic language as they are all a bit similar, some less some more.

Yes exactly, Premium. I'm sure that if I had started to learn Portuguese and Spanish at the same time I would have ended up with a 'Kauderwelsch', same as other similar languages. But like you say, there are clear advantages if you speak one language of a language family.
In any case I've signed up for Portuguese lessons and I'll see how I go.
(btw I did pass the DELE, so officially a B2 :D)

Liquinn3 August 21, 2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zuma022 (Post 142020)
Yes exactly, Premium. I'm sure that if I had started to learn Portuguese and Spanish at the same time I would have ended up with a 'Kauderwelsch', same as other similar languages. But like you say, there are clear advantages if you speak one language of a language family.
In any case I've signed up for Portuguese lessons and I'll see how I go.
(btw I did pass the DELE, so officially a B2 :D)

I was going to learn a bit of French... but the problem is, is finding the time to speak French. I have a hard enough problem with speaking Spanish (as in, finding the time, I only get to do that about 10 hours a month).

zuma022 August 21, 2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 142021)
I was going to learn a bit of French... but the problem is, is finding the time to speak French. I have a hard enough problem with speaking Spanish (as in, finding the time, I only get to do that about 10 hours a month).

I would love to eventually go back to French and improve that too, but one thing at a time. :) I know, finding time is not easy, but I do speak with a number of Spanish speakers on Skype on almost a daily basis, so I should be able to fit in some Portuguese too. We will see. It's a bit of an experiment, but I have nothing to lose. If it works out great, if not, no big deal.

Liquinn3 August 21, 2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by zuma022 (Post 142022)
I would love to eventually go back to French and improve that too, but one thing at a time. :) I know, finding time is not easy, but I do speak with a number of Spanish speakers on Skype on almost a daily basis, so I should be able to fit in some Portuguese too. We will see. It's a bit of an experiment, but I have nothing to lose. If it works out great, if not, no big deal.

True. I forgot about Skype. That way I could speak it at home. Might be easier than speaking it out of the house. I guess with writing, you don't have to keep up with both sides of the conversation. :)

I wonder if French or Portuguese would be better to learn? I want to be better in Spanish though, personally. :P

Villa August 21, 2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 142016)
Muchas gracias por tu información, Villa. :) Muy bien. Quiero ir a Portugal pero prefiero España. Entiendo tu razón. :) Por ahora, estoy interesado en la lengua español. Quiero aprender japonés, español y otras idiomas pero no mucho tiempo. Por ahora, estoy contento con mi segundo idioma. :) Los idiomas son muy fascinantes para mí.

¿Prefieres el español o el portugués? :)

Me gusta más el español pero paso el tiempo hablando español
todo el tiempo asi que el portugués es algo diferente. También
hablo el italiano con algunos amigos. Veo mucho en común con
los tres idiomas. ¿Entiendes Mendes o te explico Federico?=Understand rubber band?

Liquinn3 August 21, 2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Villa (Post 142027)
Me gusta más el español pero paso el tiempo hablando español
todo el tiempo asi que el portugués es algo diferente. También
hablo el italiano con algunos amigos. Veo mucho en común con
los tres idiomas. ¿Entiendes Mendes o te explico Federico?=Understand rubber band?

Entiendo tus palabras.
¿Habla japonés? ¿Por qué aprender español? :)
Quiero aprender portugués, pero no tengo tiempo. :(

Villa August 21, 2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 142028)
Entiendo tus palabras.
¿Habla japonés? ¿Por qué aprender español? :)
Quiero aprender portugués, pero no tengo tiempo. :(

Era un chiste eso de entiendes Mendes.

Tomé classes de Judo en un centro de cultura japones. Tuvimos que
aprender todo los throws in japones. Había gente japones ahí que no sabian hablar inglese. California es el estado con mas gente de Japon. Por ejemplo nombres come esto teniamos que aprender:

Premium August 22, 2013 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zuma022 (Post 142020)
(btw I did pass the DELE, so officially a B2 :D)

Congratulations! :)

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Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 142023)
I wonder if French or Portuguese would be better to learn? I want to be better in Spanish though, personally. :P

Which do you like more?
It's just a matter of preference.

Liquinn3 August 22, 2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Premium (Post 142040)
Congratulations! :)



Which do you like more?
It's just a matter of preference.

French, personally. Though Portuguese would be cool to learn. I do remember learning it in school and I hated it. I guess it's different when you want to learn it. :)


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