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Amigoo October 19, 2017 06:57 AM

β sound
 
Hola. It´s me again. I´ve β sound on this time.
Can you check my recording of pronunciation of the words:
Lobo, saber, jabón
https://vocaroo.com/i/s07eOkEc3XHy

Rusty October 19, 2017 08:37 AM

Your intervocal β sound is a little too soft.
Your lips should not touch each other, which I believe you're doing, but they can't be too far apart. Say 'b', touching your lips together. Then part the lips slightly and say a 'b' sound. A 'b', with slightly parted lips, is the β sound in Spanish, used when the 'b' or 'v' consonant falls between vowels.

Listen here.

Amigoo October 19, 2017 09:03 AM

Try this
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1mqhjEcLplD
My lips doesn't touch each other. But the lower lip goes slightly into the mouth, without touching the upper teeth.

Rusty October 19, 2017 09:18 AM

Your β in 'saber' is closer, but it still needs to be a bit stronger. Touch lips first, then slightly part them. Don't let your lip fall into your mouth.

In addition to the video I linked to, there are other videos online where native speakers try to teach the sound of the intervocalic 'b' or 'v'. Watch their lips and listen to how close the sound is to a hard 'b' or 'v'.

Amigoo October 19, 2017 09:20 AM

I will try. What a hard sound :(

AngelicaDeAlquezar October 19, 2017 09:31 AM

Don't worry too much. The normal "b" sound in English will be perfectly understood by anyone. The vowels, and the "ñ" and "r"/"rr" are more important. ;)

Anyway, try tensing your lips a little so they won't completely touch each other, and the "separation" between them will just be the amount of air coming out of your mouth for speaking. :)

Amigoo October 19, 2017 09:36 AM

I think I did it
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0gheDJp2msn
My lips doesn´t touch each other and underlip doesn´t go there

Rusty October 19, 2017 09:41 AM

It's still a little weak (your lips need to be closer together), but will be understood.

Amigoo October 19, 2017 09:45 AM

If you aren´t tired with me. I can record again :)

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1gSrj5G6JBq
I hope this recording is ok.

Rusty October 19, 2017 10:10 AM

The two words in the recording are clear. Your pronunciation of the word 'jabón' is more clear than 'saber', but both will be understood. :thumbsup:


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