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AngelicaDeAlquezar January 11, 2011 02:59 PM

Scotch, whiskey and whisky
 
My Scottish friends tend to use "whisky" and I've seen Americans writing "whiskey"... and most non-native English speakers, write "Scotch".

Does this correspond to how these words are actually used?

And are "Scotch" and "whisky" words for exactly the same beverage? (like those smoked and non-smoked varieties, for example?) :confused:

Thank you! :rose:

poli January 11, 2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 103405)
My Scottish friends tend to use "whisky" and I've seen Americans writing "whiskey"... and most non-native English speakers, write "Scotch".

Does this correspond to how these words are actually used?

And are "Scotch" and "whisky" words for exactly the same beverage? (like those smoked and non-smoked varieties, for example?) :confused:

Thank you! :rose:

No they are not synonymns. Scotch is whiskey made in Scotland. There's Irish whiskey, Canadian whiskey, American whiskey. Whiskey is a tawny distilled liquor made from grain and aged in barrels. I honestly don't know the correct spelling of the word. It may be whisky.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 11, 2011 03:26 PM

Thank you, Poli, it makes sense. :)

pjt33 January 11, 2011 03:34 PM

The correct spelling is whisky for Scotch, whiskey for Irish, and bourbon for American.

hermit January 11, 2011 03:43 PM

Absolutely - and whiskey for Canadian Club (rye)...

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 11, 2011 03:54 PM

Fantastic! Thank you all! :rose:

Awaken January 12, 2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 103412)
The correct spelling is whisky for Scotch, whiskey for Irish, and bourbon for American.

Whiskey is the spelling for American.

Jack Daniels is a Tennessee Whiskey.
Jim Beam is a Bourbon Whiskey. (from Kentucky)

Bourbon is a type of American Whiskey. (Bourbon County, Kentucky)

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 12, 2011 08:10 AM

Thanks, Awaken.

Is there a variety of smoked Bourbon as there is smoked whisky?

poli January 12, 2011 08:51 AM

Segun lo que había probado, todos los boubones tienen un sabor ahumado y en mi opinión más fuerte que escoches. Si quiere probarlo, es mejor tomar los con agua o hielo. No sé lo que piensan los otros foreros, pero a mí el wisqui canadiense:thumbsup: tiene el sabor más agradable o sea menos complicado que los de Escosia.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 12, 2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 103461)
Según lo que he probado, todos los boubones tienen un sabor ahumado y en mi opinión más fuerte que escoches el escocés. Si quieres ;) probarlo, es mejor tomarlos con agua o hielo. No sé lo que piensan los otros foreros, pero para mí el wisky canadiense:thumbsup: tiene el sabor más agradable o sea menos complicado que los de Escocia.

¡Gracias por la recomendación, Poli! Voy a buscar algún bourbon y algún whisky canadiense para probarlos. :)
He probado dos o tres marcas escocesas, una de ellas era un whisky ahumado violentísimo que no me gustó nada, :blackeye: pero el anfitrión estaba muy orgulloso de servirlo en su casa. :rolleyes:

Awaken January 12, 2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 103456)
Thanks, Awaken.

Is there a variety of smoked Bourbon as there is smoked whisky?

I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with "smoked Bourbon" or "Smoked Whisky."

chileno January 12, 2011 11:57 AM

Just in case http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky has pretty good info. I knew that bourbon was made of corn, but reading the wiki entry I found out it is only 50% corn (maize)

:)

poli January 12, 2011 12:02 PM

The smoked taste that bourbon has comes from the barrels that the raw
whiskey is aged in. I think the barrels are charred. This goes for some
Scotch too. I'm not a whiskey drinker, but those who do, seem to prize
that smoky taste. I prefer Canadian whiskey which tastes cleaner and thinner to me. It doesn't burn much going down despite its volatile alcoholic content.

ROBINDESBOIS January 16, 2011 02:14 AM

Are you all whiskey drinkers?

Perikles January 16, 2011 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 103589)
Are you all whiskey drinkers?

Certainly not. I only ever drink Scotch whisky (but only if there is no wine)

pjt33 January 16, 2011 06:49 AM

I don't like neat spirits, so no.

ookami January 16, 2011 11:10 AM

"neat spirits" = "alcoholes puros" ?

I don't like those drinks either, red wine or beer for dine time.

poli January 16, 2011 12:00 PM

I prefer wine, but I am not unfamiliar with distilled spirits.

pjt33 January 16, 2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ookami (Post 103608)
"neat spirits" = "alcoholes puros" ?

I don't like those drinks either, red wine or beer for dine time.

Licores sin diluir. No sería alcohol puro, quizás 40% o algo así.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 16, 2011 06:07 PM

Saben a puro alcohol, pero ciertamente, es ilegal (al menos por aquí) consumir cualquier cosa que tenga más de 50% :D

poli January 16, 2011 06:13 PM

Me parece que en EEUU es igual. No se encuentra licores mas fuerte que one hundred proof (50%) En EEUU, en general, se vende licor de 80 o 86 proof.

Segun lo que vi en Mexico en general se vende licor de 40% (80 proof).

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 16, 2011 06:34 PM

Antes se vendía "alcohol puro de caña", que era de 96ºGL, como material de curación, pero lo prohibieron porque se ingería y causaba daño hepático a gran escala. Ahora sólo se permiten licores de menos de 50% para consumo humano y el alcohol para curación es "desnaturalizado" (le agregan sustancias no ingeribles para hacerlo tóxico y de mal sabor y que no se use para beber). :)

Perikles January 17, 2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 103631)
el alcohol para curación es "desnaturalizado" (le agregan sustancias no ingeribles para hacerlo tóxico y de mal sabor y que no se use para beber). :)

=Methylated spirits, or 'meths' :)

Ambarina January 17, 2011 04:24 AM

Happy New Year! to you all.

Personally, I think whisky should be drunk neat (if it’s good, that is ;)). As Mr. Flynn from “A Quiet Man” once said: “When I drinks whisky, I drink whisky. When I drink water, I drink water” or words to that effect. But then he was an expert in the matter. :D

As far as I know
a) all spirits are distillates and therefore clear in colour.
b) The final colour of the drink is given by the cask.
c) The final flavour depends on: the cereal/grape, etc used, time spent in the cask, quality of water used, cask used, etc.
d) Some, if not all Scottish whisky is matured in sherry casks.
:twocents:

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 17, 2011 07:40 AM

@Perikles: Thank you! It's added to my vocabulary now. :rose:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambarina (Post 103646)
Personally, I think whisky should be drunk neat (if it’s good, that is ;)).

Agreed. :D

poli January 17, 2011 09:20 AM

La última que visité a Mexico, fui a un licorero y obervé que las tequilas
que vendaron llevaron 40% de alcohol. Aquí en EEUU las tequilas que exportan Mexico tienen 86 proof (43 por ciento). Imaginé que la razón para la diferencia en porcentage tuvo algo de veraís de medidas (o sea debil) de gobierno de Mexico para reducir el consumo de alcohol.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 17, 2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 103677)
La última vez que visité a Mexico, fui a un licorero una licorería y obervé que los tequilas
que vendaron vendían llevaron contenían/llevaban 40% de alcohol. Aquí en EEUU las los tequilas que exportan exporta Mexico tienen 86 proof (43 por ciento). Imaginé Imagino que la razón para la diferencia en el porcentaje tuvo tenía/tiene algo de veraís que ver con las de medidas (o sea débil) (sorry, I can't follow the comment between parentheses) del gobierno de México para reducir el consumo de alcohol.

Al gobierno Mexicano no le interesa disminuir el consumo de cualquier bebida alcohólica, sino el consumo del alcohol puro de caña, que causaba problemas de salud muy graves, sobre todo en la población que menos acceso tiene a los servicios médicos.
Y no creo que el gobierno mexicano influya en el contenido alcohólico del tequila. Son más bien los productores. Aquí he llegado a encontrar tequila de 47ºGL. ;)

Por cierto, sé que en muchos lugares (el diccionario incluido) "tequila" es femenino, pero en México es masculino, y rara vez se usa en plural. :)


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