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fglorca April 24, 2018 07:33 AM

No pienso que + subjunctive
 
I dont think that I will go to bed early until Im tired.

No pienso que me acueste temprano a menos que est cansado.

Is it essential to use the subjunctive here after no pienso que, even though me acueste is in the first person singular?

Many thanks in advance.

Rusty April 24, 2018 08:14 AM

Yes, it is.
You can drop the 'que' and use the infinitive 'acostarme' if you'd rather, since there is no change in subject.

AngelicaDeAlquezar April 24, 2018 12:58 PM

I agree with Rusty. It's better to use the infinitive form, because for many native speakers the use of the subjunctive with the same subject is not just "clumsy", but incorrect.

fglorca April 25, 2018 04:25 AM

Thanks guys.
So, just to confirm, if I decide not to use the infinitive, and use "No pienso que me acueste" - is it true that this is grammatically correct, but not used very often?

Would the same apply to:
"Espero que apruebe mi examen." (I hope that I pass my exam.) I think this sounds grammatically incorrect? (Even though I would use "Espero aprobar..."

Thanks.

Rusty April 25, 2018 06:26 AM

If the subject is not changing, native speakers will use the infinitive.
In your second example, your listener will not hear "I hope I pass my exam." They will instead understand "I hope he/she passes his/her exam," unless you were NOT recently talking about another individual. If you weren't already talking about a third person, they would wonder why you didn't use the infinitive. It isn't grammatically wrong, but will be ambiguous for your listener.

fglorca May 14, 2018 04:14 AM

Thanks so much for your excellent explanations!


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