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vita32 November 10, 2010 10:52 AM

The Bicol dialect of the Philippines
 
Bicol Dialect is the language of the Southern region of the Luzon Island in the Philippines. This part of Luzon island is called Bicol Region and the people are called Bicolanos (bicolano/bicolana=singular form). This language is further subdivided into different local dialects which can vary from one town/city to the next. There is a standard Bicol dialect that is spoken and understood by almost all Bicolanos. This Bicol dialect is spoken in the city of Naga and Legazpi (there may still be slight variations in the speech of these two cities).

Basic Greetings:

Marhay na aga=good morning; Marhay na aga sa saindo gabos=good morning to everyone.

Marhay na aldaw=good day

Marhay na bangui=good evening
Marhay na hapon=good afternoon.

Kumusta 'ka=how are you;kumusta kamo=how are you all/how is everybody?

Salamat/Dios Mabalos=thank you
Daeng anuman= you are welcome:)

irmamar November 10, 2010 01:03 PM

Marhay na bangui, Vita. :)

Is Bicol a dialect from Tagalog?

vita32 November 10, 2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 99375)
Marhay na bangui, Vita. :)

Is Bicol a dialect from Tagalog?

Marhay na bangui man saimo, irmamar(good evening to you too, irmamar).:)

Some Bicol words are similar to Tagalog especially words that are Spanish in origin. Joijoi posted something about the prevalence of Spanish words in the Tagalog (Pilipino) language. This is true also in the dialects of the Bicol Region. Spanish for table = mesa; in Bicol dialect it is lamesa; and as joijoi posted, it is mesa in Tagalog. In Bicol region counting past the number 10 is done in Spanish simply because the local equivalents of the numbers past number ten is very long and wordy. To give an example:

Twenty Three=veinte tres=duwang sampolo may tulo (Bicol)

The spelling of the Spanish numbers is localized since Bicol alphabet does not have v, c, f, ñ, j, x, z. So veinte tres =beinte tres.:) The Filipino alphabet is somewhat ironic because lots of places in the Philippines and names of Filipinos use the missing letters of the Filipino Alphabets.:thinking::):thinking:

irmamar November 11, 2010 12:23 AM

Marhay na aga, now, Vita. :D

Veintitrés. Numbers, from twenty to twenty-nine are written together with an "i", in Spanish, from thirty to subsequents are written separately: veintiuno, veintidós, veintitrés, veinticuatro [...], veintinueve, treinta, treinta y uno, etc. :)

In Spanish, "v" has also the same pronunciation as "b".

That's curious that in bicol "lamesa" is written with the article, too (la_mesa). :)

vita32 November 11, 2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 99416)
Marhay na aga, now, Vita. :D

Veintitrés. Numbers, from twenty to twenty-nine are written together with an "i", in Spanish, from thirty to subsequents are written separately: veintiuno, veintidós, veintitrés, veinticuatro [...], veintinueve, treinta, treinta y uno, etc. :)

In Spanish, "v" has also the same pronunciation as "b".

That's curious that in bicol "lamesa" is written with the article, too (la_mesa). :)

Marhay na bangui, irmamar ( good evening, irmamar):)

Thank you for clarifying how to write twenty to twenty-nine in Spanish:)
What about sixteen, is it dies y seis or diesiseis; dies y siete or diesisiete;
etc....etc...?

Dios Mabalos (Thank you):)

Note: Literal translation of Dios Mabalos is God will repay (God will return the favor).:)

irmamar November 12, 2010 12:30 AM

Kumusta 'ka, vita? (I've already learnt this one) :D

Once, doce, trece, catorce, quince, dieciséis, diecisiete, dieciocho, diecinueve, veinte. :)

vita32 November 12, 2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 99523)
Kumusta 'ka, vita? (I've already learnt this one) :D

Once, doce, trece, catorce, quince, dieciséis, diecisiete, dieciocho, diecinueve, veinte. :)

Gracias:),irmamar,

Muy Bueno!:DEstoy alegro a saber que eres aprendiendo Bicol/Tagalog y estoy aprendiendo escriber los numeros en español con tu ayuda.:)

Corregid mi español, por favor.
Otra vez gracias.:)

irmamar November 12, 2010 05:09 AM

¿Cómo se dice "de nada" en tagalo? :)

vita32 November 12, 2010 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 99549)
¿Cómo se dice "de nada" en tagalo? :)

Walang anoman(Tagalog).:)

irmamar November 12, 2010 05:29 AM

Dios malabos (this is easy to remember).
Walang anoman (this is not so easy).

:)


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