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SPX August 31, 2011 07:09 PM

What kind of sound would you suggest adopting?

BTW, I have always wondered if anyone out there appreciates an American accent. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they do.

Also, how often is coche actually used? I used to use it instead of carro just to avoid the RR, but I had a native speaker once basically tell me that the word is rarely actually used in conversation.

Rusty August 31, 2011 07:35 PM

Coche is used all the time in Spain. In Latin America, use carro.

Don José September 01, 2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SPX (Post 116680)
I think it's interesting that you say the English R sounds better than the French R. Why is that?

I should have said it's a personal opinion. A French person saying a sentence with lots of RR would sound as gggg...ggg ...ggggg. I'd be under the impression that he/she can't breath properly. Nothing to see with the 'light, soft and sweet'' English R (that are the adjectives that come to me mind when comparing with the French R:))


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I want to make sure I am understood. I'd also prefer to not sound ridiculous. Would you suggest that I pronounce RR words--as well as words that begin with R--simply like a hard English R instead of attempting to roll it French-style?
You won't sound ridiculous and you'll be understood. I'd forgot about the French-style.

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I remember talking once to a Guatemalan Spanish about the word "rey." I pronounced it simply like the English word "ray," which he seemed to find quite unacceptable, ha ha.
Some people find fault with everything.

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I also am concerned about how to make the differentiation between words like caro/carro and pero/perro
Context. Bob Marley.:):)

Tyrn March 18, 2023 01:52 AM

Anybody pointed out that trilling R is difficult enough to defeat a certain percentage of native speakers? It isn't all about accent.

poli March 18, 2023 05:28 PM

The r in Spanish is produced without the incorporation of the alveolar ridge. The r should always be in the front of the mouth. It doesn't necessarily roll, and in many cases, is more like a flap. A truly rolled r is regional, and can be heard in
Barranquilla as well a other places. By the way, rolled r's are frequently used in Great Britain.

Tyrn March 19, 2023 11:19 AM

The fidgety bairn :love:

poli March 21, 2023 12:23 PM

Thanks! What a beautiful voice, and the English dialect sounds unique to me.

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 23, 2023 10:00 PM

Some regional accents pronounce "r" sounds differently. For example, in Puerto Rico and some places in the Caribbean, many speakers tend to pronounce "l" instead of "r" [Puelto Lico, señol...].
Some Chileans and other South Americans pronounce it more like the American "r".
But most speakers tend to use "r" and "rr" in a mostly standard way. :)
I wouldn't say it's a matter of difficulty; it's probably more about the influence of local indigenous languages.


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Originally Posted by Tyrn (Post 185930)

Oh, nice! http://forums.tomisimo.org/images/smilies/corazon.gif

wrholt March 24, 2023 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 185947)
Some regional accents pronounce "r" sounds differently. For example, in Puerto Rico and some places in the Caribbean, many speakers tend to pronounce "l" instead of "r" [Puelto Lico, señol...].
Some Chileans and other South Americans pronounce it more like the American "r".
But most speakers tend to use "r" and "rr" in a mostly standard way. :)
I wouldn't say it's a matter of difficulty; it's probably more about the influence of local indigenous languages.



Oh, nice! http://forums.tomisimo.org/images/smilies/corazon.gif

Regarding how Puerto Ricans pronounce Puerto Rico, I mostly have heard /puel-to xi-ko/; "r" before a consonant pronounced like 'l', and 'rr' pronounced like French or Brazilian Portuguese 'r', English 'h', or Spanish 'j'.

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 24, 2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wrholt (Post 185949)
Regarding how Puerto Ricans pronounce Puerto Rico, I mostly have heard /puel-to xi-ko/; "r" before a consonant pronounced like 'l', and 'rr' pronounced like French or Brazilian Portuguese 'r', English 'h', or Spanish 'j'.

You're right. I've also heard many speakers pronouncing "hard r" almost gutturally. :)


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