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ChicadeJeep January 16, 2010 04:53 PM

I have knowledge of University level English - so even if I managed to pick up a 'heavy' read I should be okay with it.

BUT, I do believe that I will start with something simple and easy!!
(Maybe a kids novel?!)

Okay - I have redone again: Newest in purple.

Carlos nunca dijo a su familia que la sucursal de Miami tenía problemas.
:warning: ¡Eso no es (this is not subjunctive) bueno!
¡Es lamentable que no le dijo a su familia!
¡Es lamentable que no le dijo a su familia!
¡Es lamentable que no le haya dijo a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)

Ahora la familia cree que Carlos les ha engañado a todos.
¡Esperemos que Carlos puede(this is not subjunctive) explicar lo que pasó!
¡No es cierto que engañó a su familia!
¡No es cierto que engañó a su familia!
¡Es no es cierto que haya engañó a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)

Probablemente Arturo vendrá a México a reunirse con Raquel.
:warning: ¡Qué bueno que debería (this is not subjunctive) ser!
¡Es fácil que ella sea contento!
¡Es fácil que ella sea contento!
¡Espero que ella sea feliz! (I changed it to I hope she will be happy - does this work better?)

chileno January 16, 2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep (Post 68760)
I have knowledge of University level English - so even if I managed to pick up a 'heavy' read I should be okay with it.

BUT, I do believe that I will start with something simple and easy!!
(Maybe a kids novel?!)

No, because it makes you feel awkward.

Maybe easy, but not that easy, although I always recommend you pick up something that will be at your level, not so much as to be a challenge, but enough to leave you wanting more. ;)

ChicadeJeep January 16, 2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 68783)
No, because it makes you feel awkward.

Maybe easy, but not that easy, although I always recommend you pick up something that will be at your level, not so much as to be a challenge, but enough to leave you wanting more. ;)


Okay - I am awkward enough as it is!! :p

I will follow that advise chileno - thank you again!
Will try and get to the library tomorrow.
We are in the process of packing our home to move so it is tough to find time!

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 16, 2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep (Post 68760)
Okay - I have redone again: Newest in purple.

¡Es lamentable que no le haya dijo:bad: a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)

Ahora la familia cree que Carlos les ha engañado a todos.
¡Es no es cierto que haya engañó:bad: a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)

Wrong in both cases. "Dijo" and "engañó" are simple past, and both because of the exercise reasons and the sentence structure, you have to use a subjunctive:
-> Es lamentable que no le haya dicho a su familia.
-> No es cierto que haya engañado a su familia.
"Haber" is an auxiliary verb used for conjugating composite tenses. It needs a past participle.

If you still haven't learnt those tenses, you can follow one of Chileno's previous suggestions and make the sentences with subjunctive preterite:
-> Es lamentable que no le dijera a su familia.
-> No es cierto que engañara a su familia.



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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep (Post 68760)
Probablemente Arturo vendrá a México a reunirse con Raquel.
¡Espero que ella sea feliz!:good: (I changed it to I hope she will be happy - does this work better?)

You could also have kept contento(a): "¡Espero que ella esté contenta!"

ChicadeJeep January 16, 2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 68797)
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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep http://forums.tomisimo.org/images/sm...6/viewpost.gif
Okay - I have redone again: Newest in purple.

¡Es lamentable que no le haya dijo:bad: a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)

Ahora la familia cree que Carlos les ha engañado a todos.
¡Es no es cierto que haya engañó:bad: a su familia! (I think that all I had to do was add the haya in?)


Wrong in both cases. "Dijo" and "engañó" are simple past, and both because of the exercise reasons and the sentence structure, you have to use a subjunctive:
-> Es lamentable que no le haya dicho a su familia.
-> No es cierto que haya engañado a su familia.
"Haber" is an auxiliary verb used for conjugating composite tenses. It needs a past participle.

Darn! I tried to figure it out and then my brain just told me that I needed to only add haya in front.

If you still haven't learnt those tenses, you can follow one of Chileno's previous suggestions and make the sentences with subjunctive preterite:
-> Es lamentable que no le dijera a su familia.
-> No es cierto que engañara a su familia.

I will take this suggestion and use those. And will have to study a little more on the subjunctive.

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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep http://forums.tomisimo.org/images/sm...6/viewpost.gif
Probablemente Arturo vendrá a México a reunirse con Raquel.
¡Espero que ella sea feliz!:good: (I changed it to I hope she will be happy - does this work better?)


You could also have kept contento(a): "¡Espero que ella esté contenta!"

Oh good! Thanks! Ah - because I had originally used 'es' which is not used in subjunctive, therefore it has to be esté.

I think I responded into the quote ... sorry about that!
Thank you very much for your help!

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 16, 2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicadeJeep (Post 68799)
Oh good! Thanks! Ah - because I had originally used 'es' which is not used in subjunctive, therefore it has to be esté.

I think I responded into the quote ... sorry about that!
Thank you very much for your help!

Don't worry about where you reply... I just hope comments and suggestions will help you. :)

"Es" was not a subjunctive, that's true, but it wasn't the right verb either:

Ser -> es (simple present) -> sea (subjunctive)
Estar -> está (simple present) -> esté (subjunctive) :)

ChicadeJeep January 16, 2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 68805)
Don't worry about where you reply... I just hope comments and suggestions will help you. :)

"Es" was not a subjunctive, that's true, but it wasn't the right verb either:

Ser -> es (simple present) -> sea (subjunctive)
Estar -> está (simple present) -> esté (subjunctive) :)

Ahhh the dreaded Ser vs Estar! I always get those confused!
Yes - the comments do help me!


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