Online grammar guide for Spanish

[Ramses]

I've been searching the web for hours, and found some neat stuff regarding grammar, but not quite where I was looking for.

For Japanese I found Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese grammar (http://www.guidetojapanese.org/). Although I don't study Japanese, the format of the guide appeals me. I've found the Zona ELE site (www.zonaele.com), but it doesn't cover the grammar in a logical way.

Does any of you guys know a grammar guide (online) which looks like the Japanese one in terms of a logical build-up?

[Rusty]

I can see why Tae Kim's guide was appealing to you. Grammar, as hard as it can be, needs to be learned much like it was taught to us by our parents when we were toddlers. Parents often choose an object, like a ball, and teach us that word alone. Once it is repeated by us toddlers to their satisfaction, they will add an article, then an adjective, and finally a verb. Soon we learn what roll the red ball means. Then, our attention is shifted to another object and our parents start afresh.

Of course, there are sites that I visit once in awhile, because they teach a concept that I want to learn, but I haven't been able to find one that is a complete, comprehensive, online course (for free).

We have the opportunity to make such a guide, in Wiki format. David has begun working on it, but he is counting on us for lots of help and ideas.

[Ramses]

Yeah, ok. But there must be something like that for Spanish too, right? To be honest; I'm not that into learning grammar as I believe that you can reach almost the same by getting massive input, but the fact is that sometimes people need a comprehensive text/course/explanation to reinforce what they already feel (i.e. Sentence A isn't correct by B is. Why? I don't know, but it feels like that, just like a native).

[poli]

Additionally, I think Spanish grammar is more difinitive than English grammar (the only other language I know). Although English is a very
complicated language, its pronouns are simpler and more streamlined
than those in Spanish. Example: If you use a direct obeject pronoun
instead of an indirect pronoun in Spanish you will sound bad. In English,
there isn't much difference. Knowing the difference between a direct object and indirect object and knowing the corresponding pronouns will advance you.
For that reason, learning simple grammar use is helpful when studying
Spanish. I know it's dry, but knowledge of grammar helps a lot.

[Ramses]

Sure, but only later on. If I begin learning a language I don't care about stuff like that. I want to learn survival vocab and simple grammar where I can build on. It has worked for me and boosted my progress.

But please, don't make this thread a against-pro thread, I only want to know a good grammar guide. Anyone knows one?

[Tomisimo]

Escrito originalmente por Ramses

But please, don't make this thread a against-pro thread, I only want to know a good grammar guide. Anyone knows one?

I'll be opening up the Tomisimo grammar guide here in a few days.

[Ramses]

Vale. ¿Cómo lo va?

[Tomisimo]

Escrito originalmente por Ramses

Vale. ¿Cómo lo va?

No está del todo listo, pero puedes verlo y darme tu opinión. http://grammar.tomisimo.org