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Old November 26, 2008, 01:27 AM
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Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

I have read this today

Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

I know it's a russian, the cold war and so on, but I have a question about this point (breakup of the USA)
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Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
Do you see now this kind of differences?
Do you think this kind of "racial" divission is possible?
Are the differences there, so in case of social problems a breakup is possible?

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Old November 26, 2008, 01:55 AM
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I'm certainly no expert in this regard, but I don't believe I see the "racial" division the Russian is asserting. When times get tougher, as they surely will, I believe Americans will tend to rally together rather than divide up into social cliques.
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Old November 26, 2008, 05:37 AM
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I hope the U.S. won't break up. I don't want that to happen!!!!
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To me it seems like a rather sensationalist type of story. Predictions about dificulties are one thing, but I doubt the US would break up easily.
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Old November 26, 2008, 09:21 AM
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Rusia y EE UU somos adversarios. Lo que dijo el ruso son palabras insustenables. Las divisiones americanos son los mismos que habían en nuestro pais desde el siglo 19 y la guerra civil (recueda Lo que el Vieto se LLevo). Esta división se pone muy aparente cada año hay elecciones presidenciales. En la de 2008 elección el norte (Obama de Chicago) ganó(soy un yankee). En los ultimos 8 años el sur (Bush de Texas) prevaló(no soy un rebel). Esa división aunque serio, no es tan serio ni es la division muy bien definida ya. El comercio y relaciones entre los estados es muy amigable.

Las otras divisiones de que habló el ruso son imaginárias. Es verdad que
EE UU se puso en una situación peligrosa por la débula nacional acompañada por la crisis económica. La historia muestra que imperios cayen por débulas. Éso es el problema que nuestro pais
tendrá que enfrentar y arreglar en la década que viene si queremos mantener nuestro poder en el futuro.
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Old November 26, 2008, 11:32 AM
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Unas pequeñas correcciones:

... palabras insustentables
... divisiones americanas ... las mismas ...
... que habían
... se pone hace muy aparente...
... no soy un rebelde ...

No había visto la palabra débula antes. Weakness es debilidad ¿Eso quisiste decir?
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Old November 26, 2008, 11:39 AM
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What I meant was debt. I guess the correct word woud be débito.
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De nada. Glad to be of service.
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Rusia y EE UU somos adversarios. Lo que dijo el ruso son palabras insostenibles. Las divisiones americanos son las mismas que habían en nuestro pais desde el siglo 19 y la guerra civil (recuerda "Lo que el viento se llevó" ). Esta división se ve claramente cada año cuando hay elecciones presidenciales. En las elecciones del 2008 el norte (Obama de Chicago) ganó (soy un yankee). En los últimos 8 años el sur (Bush de Texas) prevaleció (no soy un rebel-divisionista??-). Esa división aunque importante, no es tan seria ni está tan definida actuamente. El comercio y las relaciones entre los estados son muy amigables.

Las otras divisiones de las que habló el ruso son imaginarias. Es verdad que EE UU se puso en una situación peligrosa por la deuda nacional acompañada por la crisis económica. La historia muestra que imperios cayen por deudas. Éso es el problema que nuestro pais tendrá que enfrentar y arreglar en la década que viene si queremos mantener nuestro poder en el futuro.

A good explanation
I know here exists the Nort-South rivalty, but I was shocked about so a "racial" break-up.
I find more normal a "political" break-up or an economic one, but to the 5 poorest to breakup only because they have native american population sounds a little strange for em (poorer states never try to break up)
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Rusia y EE UU somos adversarios. Lo que dijo el ruso son palabras insostenibles. Las divisiones americanos son las mismas que habían en nuestro pais desde el siglo 19 y la guerra civil (recuerda "Lo que el viento se llevó" ). Esta división se ve claramente cada año cuando hay elecciones presidenciales. En las elecciones del 2008 el norte (Obama de Chicago) ganó (soy un yankee). En los últimos 8 años el sur (Bush de Texas) prevaleció (no soy un rebel-divisionista??-Yes during the American Civil War, the southerners called themselves rebels -divisionistas en español and the northerners called themselves yankees). Esa división aunque importante, no es tan seria ni está tan definida actuamente. El comercio y las relaciones entre los estados son muy amigables.

Las otras divisiones de las que habló el ruso son imaginarias. Es verdad que EE UU se puso en una situación peligrosa por la deuda nacional acompañada por la crisis económica. La historia muestra que imperios cayen por deudas. Éso es el problema que nuestro pais tendrá que enfrentar y arreglar en la década que viene si queremos mantener nuestro poder en el futuro.

A good explanation
I know here exists the Nort-South rivalry, but I was shocked about so a "racial" break-up.
I find more normal a "political" break-up or an economic one, but to the 5 poorest to breakup only because they have native american population sounds a little strange for em (poorer states never try to break up)
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Yes, his theory of racial break-up is all wrong. There's always danger of great nations falling in time of econimic crisis, but his predictions seem inplausable. He doesn't understand our geopolitics.
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