The worst

[aleCcowaN]

Originally Posted by IVY29

Supiere is the future subjunctive, and I was explaining 'supiera ( imperfect subjunctive) to Jellybaby in the above post. I wonder what I did wrong that i am not aware.
Thank you

What I quoted from your post, as it stands out from my previous post. Again:

Originally Posted by Ivy29
Lo peor es que lo supiera... ( imperfect subjunctive) possibility, probability, he doesn't know it yet.

The only way blue (without "desde el principio") may be right when red is true is the narrow pragmatic use I also commented in the same post. And if blue is "lo peor es que lo supiera desde el principio", then blue intersection red equals empty set.

To everyone, including IVY29: what I said is "

Lo peor es que lo supiera... ( imperfect subjunctive) possibility, probability, he doesn't know it yet.

" is absolutely false and verging agramaticalidad, and no pragmatical use of any social or regional group can be argued in opposition to the fact that "lo peor es que lo supiera" means "obviously he knew" and never "he doesn't know it yet" in a context of learning Spanish, even for very advance students and translators.

[Ivy2937]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

What I quoted from your post, as it stands out from my previous post. Again:

The only way blue (without "desde el principio") may be right when red is true is the narrow pragmatic use I also commented in the same post. And if blue is "lo peor es que lo supiera desde el principio", then blue intersection red equals empty set.

To everyone, including IVY29: what I said is "" is absolutely false and verging agramaticalidad, and no pragmatical use of any social or regional group can be argued in opposition to the fact that "lo peor es que lo supiera" means "obviously he knew" and never "he doesn't know it yet" in a context of learning Spanish, even for very advance students and translators.

Lo peor es que lo sabe ( he knoes it already)
Lo peor es que lo supo (ayer) He knew it already
Lo peor fue que lo supiera (afterthought) he knew it already, and I am making a present judgement about something that happened, but not now or at present ( lo peor fue = simple past)

We must recall that 'imperfect subjunctive' has past, present, and future connotations.

Lo peor es que lo supiera = It is not towards the past, just for present or future ( In order to qualify = lo peor es
Supiera= subjunctive.
Lo peor= It is the worst
(él)supiera = the possibility or probability to know ( not a fact yet)
Lo peor sería que lo supiera ( towards the future, conditional) Hypothetical future) =lo peor sería.
supiera = subjunctive towards the future ( probability, possibility he might know it.
This is my opinion, of course, I could be wrong, but my knowledge of the subjunctive tells me otherwise.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Ivy: What Alec said is that "que lo supiera desde el principio" is implying that the subject had the knowledge, while you said the use of the subjunctive meant that he/she didn't.

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