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Old June 29, 2013, 12:27 PM
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It's interesting that the 's' in 'is' is pronounced as an 's' when used in a contraction. When used as a separate word, the 's' is pronounced like the letter 'z'.
Rusty, please don't tell that to a Spaniard!


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Old June 29, 2013, 12:31 PM
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The English pronunciation of the letter was inferred, as you know.
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Old June 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
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By the English reader... of course... (given that the discussion is being carried in English...)
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I think Chileno's point was that Rusty should have said implied rather than inferred.
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Old June 30, 2013, 07:21 AM
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Implied and inferred can be used interchangeably when the meaning is 'hint or suggest'.
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Old June 30, 2013, 07:28 AM
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Maybe this has happened to some of you, maybe not.

As I used a bilingual dictionary to translate from English to Spanish. I would also read the phonetics provided for the word in English. In order to understand them I had to read the instructions, and usually they would like:

whatever symbol as in ....

Several dictionaries listed the help for sh pronunciation as "a soft ch as in the French word chapeau"

And if I remember well, this instruction was the same in both languages. Maybe it was only in Spanish, I don't recall and now I am too lazy to be looking for it.

Does anybody think this instruction is right?

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Implied and inferred can be used interchangeably when the meaning is 'hint or suggest'.
I disagree. To imply is to make an implication, whereas to infer is to draw an inference (from that implication or elsewhere).

Put another way, to imply is to make an indirect statement. To infer means to deduce from a statement. Thus if somebody implies something, somebody else can infer something from it. It is the same event from different perspectives.

By definition, these two can't be used interchangeably.
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It's complicated.
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Old June 30, 2013, 12:09 PM
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pjt, exactly as I understand the terms imply and infer.
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