Español de España

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Yes, there are different ways of speaking, but it's good to know them, too (in my opinion, just to understand, not to use , although I could easily be wrong ).

You're agree with that.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

You're agree with that.

Yes, I agree with what I wrote.

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Yes, I agree with what I wrote.

In the take decision, you have convinced me.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

In the take decision, you have convinced me.

I'm glad.

[hermit]

Hola Crotalito - Aprendí la mitad de mi Español de mis amigos Mejicanos
y a mí siempre me parecía que entre el castellano de españa (ceceo o seseo)
y el idioma de cualquier parte de Mejico no es cuestión de lo 'correcto', sino
comparaciónes de formalidad y costumbre, ¿No?

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I'm glad.

You're welcome.

[CarmenCarmona]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

Hola ¿qué es la diferencia entre el español de España y otros versiones? ¿Cómo se distingue de los demás?

Sé que pronuncian los "c y z" con un sonido diferente, pero que es todo de lo que sé.

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

Well I guess that the Spain Spanish is very different to the Mexican slang, because you use the idioms and colloquial phrases only used in your country and well, the Spain Spanish has more grammatic and it's more correct spoken than here in my country.

We don't use Vosotros, Voz between another words used there in Spain.

Firstly, we should distinguish between 'accent' and 'dialect'.

A dialect entails differences in grammar and vocabulary. There is actually a Standard English, the one that they teach us in Spain and the one that everybody from different English-speaking countries understands. I suppose it occurs the same in Spanish.

An accent involves differences in pronunciation. However, there is no Standard: accents are established for political reasons.

I guess this is due to the fact that there is a 'language continuum' across geographic regions. For instance, and very curious by the way, in a location such as Madrid they would say: /las kasas/ (/s/ = 1 - 1) whereas southwards, where I live in Murcia we say: /lə kasə/ (/s/ = 0 - 0) BUT there is a place in-between those regions, Albacete, etc, where they say: /lə kasas/ (/s/ = 0 - 1)


Therefore, someone from Albacete understands Murcian and Madrilian utterances better than Murcian people understand Madrilian's and viceversa. And it happens the same among the different language families in close locations: People from Andorra understand French better than me, etc.


Anyway, going back to the issue of English accents, 'RP English' (it stands for 'Received Pronunciation', allegedly from the Queen of England)..:
-It is the one that they instruct us here in Spain.
-It doesn't belong to any region.
-It is only spoken by a 5% of English-speaking population in the British Isles and yet, it is the dominant group.
-It is used for teaching purposes because phoneticians are acquainted with it and it used for the media because everybody can understand it.
-There are three types, as it has been innovated.


Does anybody know if something similar happens with Spanish?


Later on, I'll post the sound changes that have taken place in the U.K since the Great Divide, I have to go shopping now!

[irmamar]

Pues sí, hay un español estándar.

I'm not sure if English speaking people knows anything about RP English; maybe it's only known by English students.

[Rusty]

I've never heard of RP before. I can understand, but certainly don't speak, the Queen's English. Pronunciation of words (what you may lump into 'accent') is quite distinct between British and American English. We also have different meanings for some words, or altogether new words. So, without some mutual understanding of these differences, American and British roommates (flat mates) could get into a tiff.

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by hermit

Hola Crotalito - Aprendí la mitad de mi Español de mis amigos Mejicanos
y a mí siempre me parecía que entre el castellano de españa (ceceo o seseo)
y el idioma de cualquier parte de Mejico no es cuestión de lo 'correcto', sino
comparaciónes de formalidad y costumbre, ¿No?

Yes, exactly the diversity of the language are the same, although in Spain the speech is different to the Mexican speech, because the idioms and the kind to words are different in the same language.

But both Spanish languages are understanding, never I said that the Mexican Spanish is wrong or that the Mexican Spanish isn't the correct , but I believe that exist the diversity in the habit of as people speaks the language in each country, they reaching the high speech of their place born.