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Old November 19, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Personal A with con

Is the personal a used when forming a sentence with the word ¨con¨

Voy al río con a mi hermano.

o

Voy al río con mi hermano.

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The personal a does not follow con.
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I have never seen a sentence when a is after con.
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Here's the rule:

The preposition a is used before a noun when the noun is both a direct object of a verb and the noun is a person or is personified.

In your example, hermano is not the direct object of a verb, so the rule doesn't apply.

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Is the personal a used when forming a sentence with the word ¨con¨

Voy al río con a mi hermano.

o

Voy al río con mi hermano.

You're welcome, I did a bit corrections in your previous post.
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Here's the rule:

The preposition a is used before a noun when the noun is both a direct object of a verb and the noun is a person or is personified.

In your example, hermano is not the direct object of a verb, so the rule doesn't apply.

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I think this whole direct object and indirect object business is the most confusing thing I have run into while learning Spanish.

Also, I suppose that when using con, you would never form a sentence where a person (or a personified object) would be the direct object. Am I right to think this?

Él abrazó a ella.
Ella is the direct object because she is receiving the action.

Él compró el coche con ella, o, Él lo compró con ella.

The car is the direct object now.

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Is the personal a used when forming a sentence with the word ¨con¨

Voy al río con a mi hermano.

o

Voy al río con mi hermano.

You're welcome, I did a bit corrections in your previous post.
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I think this whole direct object and indirect object business is the most confusing thing I have run into while learning Spanish
First of all, direct or indirect objects are always nouns, pronouns or noun phrases.

A direct object is a noun that is acted upon by the verb. Think of this as physically being affected by the verb.

I bought a car. - Compré un coche.
I let the cat go. - Solté al gato.

In these examlpes, the car and the cat were directly affected by the action of the verb. The verb acted directly upon them.

An indirect object is the secondary recipient or beneficiary of the verb's action. When you have an indirect object, you almost always have a direct object too.

I bought my sister a car. - Le compré un coche a mi hermana.
I gave the book to the professor. - Le di el libro al profesor.

In these examples, the direct objects are the car and the book, and the indirect objects are your sister and the prof.

I hope that helps a bit.
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I learned about the personal a too, you know, in the first chapter, Chapter 7. But now I knew that a DOESN'T come after con. I don't know why but it's that why and now you know not to use it after the personal a.
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