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Old August 31, 2011, 07:09 PM
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What kind of sound would you suggest adopting?

BTW, I have always wondered if anyone out there appreciates an American accent. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they do.

Also, how often is coche actually used? I used to use it instead of carro just to avoid the RR, but I had a native speaker once basically tell me that the word is rarely actually used in conversation.

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Old August 31, 2011, 07:35 PM
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Coche is used all the time in Spain. In Latin America, use carro.
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Old September 01, 2011, 09:53 AM
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I think it's interesting that you say the English R sounds better than the French R. Why is that?
I should have said it's a personal opinion. A French person saying a sentence with lots of RR would sound as gggg...ggg ...ggggg. I'd be under the impression that he/she can't breath properly. Nothing to see with the 'light, soft and sweet'' English R (that are the adjectives that come to me mind when comparing with the French R)


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I want to make sure I am understood. I'd also prefer to not sound ridiculous. Would you suggest that I pronounce RR words--as well as words that begin with R--simply like a hard English R instead of attempting to roll it French-style?
You won't sound ridiculous and you'll be understood. I'd forgot about the French-style.

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Anybody pointed out that trilling R is difficult enough to defeat a certain percentage of native speakers? It isn't all about accent.
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The r in Spanish is produced without the incorporation of the alveolar ridge. The r should always be in the front of the mouth. It doesn't necessarily roll, and in many cases, is more like a flap. A truly rolled r is regional, and can be heard in
Barranquilla as well a other places. By the way, rolled r's are frequently used in Great Britain.
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Thanks! What a beautiful voice, and the English dialect sounds unique to me.
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Some regional accents pronounce "r" sounds differently. For example, in Puerto Rico and some places in the Caribbean, many speakers tend to pronounce "l" instead of "r" [Puelto Lico, señol...].
Some Chileans and other South Americans pronounce it more like the American "r".
But most speakers tend to use "r" and "rr" in a mostly standard way.
I wouldn't say it's a matter of difficulty; it's probably more about the influence of local indigenous languages.


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Some regional accents pronounce "r" sounds differently. For example, in Puerto Rico and some places in the Caribbean, many speakers tend to pronounce "l" instead of "r" [Puelto Lico, señol...].
Some Chileans and other South Americans pronounce it more like the American "r".
But most speakers tend to use "r" and "rr" in a mostly standard way.
I wouldn't say it's a matter of difficulty; it's probably more about the influence of local indigenous languages.



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Regarding how Puerto Ricans pronounce Puerto Rico, I mostly have heard /puel-to xi-ko/; "r" before a consonant pronounced like 'l', and 'rr' pronounced like French or Brazilian Portuguese 'r', English 'h', or Spanish 'j'.
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Regarding how Puerto Ricans pronounce Puerto Rico, I mostly have heard /puel-to xi-ko/; "r" before a consonant pronounced like 'l', and 'rr' pronounced like French or Brazilian Portuguese 'r', English 'h', or Spanish 'j'.
You're right. I've also heard many speakers pronouncing "hard r" almost gutturally.
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