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The use of the conditional with "de haber" or "a no ser por" (examples requested)

 

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Old June 03, 2011, 01:17 PM
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También está:

A no ser porque fuéramos al cine, estaríamos cocinando toda la tarde en la casa.
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Thanks for the variations. I'm trying to limit myself (for now) to the exact phrase given in my book: "a no ser por..."....... It's about all I can handle right now...



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A no ser por + sustantivo - she gave me several examples (like "a no ser por la lluvia, podríamos caminar...." or something).

Does that ring true with you all?
I'd never say that. I'd say "De no ser por la lluvia...."

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Old June 06, 2011, 03:57 PM
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I'd never say that. I'd say "De no ser por la lluvia...."

Que yo recuerde ambos "de no/a no ser" se dicen en Chile.

A no ser que yo esté mal.
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Que yo recuerde ambos "de no/a no ser" se dicen en Chile.

A no ser que yo esté mal.
"A no ser que" es perfectamente correcto para mí.

"A no ser por" no lo es. . Si se va a usar con "por" yo lo digo "de no ser por". El otro me suena muy raro.

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Old June 06, 2011, 07:20 PM
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"A no ser que" es perfectamente correcto para mí.

"A no ser por" no lo es. . Si se va a usar con "por" yo lo digo "de no ser por". El otro me suena muy raro.

A no ser porque me has dicho esto, estoy seguro de que estaría equivocado.

Subjuntivo trabaja también?



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El uso de España es que las oraciones con "a + infinitivo" funcionan como condicionales de un modo parecido a las que tienen "de + infinitivo". Según dicen, las que usan "a" con carácter activo y las que usan "de" con carácter pasivo:

A no ser por los bomberos, se habría quemado el edificio.
De no ser a ese precio, no me conviene.

En América, según lo entiendo, no funciona así. Yo no veo que tenga que ver con el carácter activo o pasivo del verbo, sino con la estructura de la condición.
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