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Old July 22, 2011, 08:02 AM
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Amigos de Tomisimo,
Como estamos aqui para aprender español y seguir aprendiendolo los que lo hablamos tengo una pregunta sobre el presente del subjuntivo usando el verbo creer.

¿Crees que el gas aumentA esta semana?
¿Crees que el gas aumentE esta semana?

¿No crees que SEA tarde para salir?
¿No crees que ES tarde para salir?

Puedo y NO puedo ver la diferencia. ¿Podrian explicarme la diferencia y darme una sugerencia de como explicarle esto a un estudiante?

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Old July 22, 2011, 08:43 AM
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Hi Becky!

The short answer is:

¿Crees que el gas aumentE esta semana? ---> is asking an opinion
¿Crees que el gas aumentA esta semana? --->(not very common) it has a tweak from subjunctive -default case- to indicative in order to add a nuance.

¿No crees que SEA tarde para salir? ---> is asking an opinion (it may be regarded as information)
¿No crees que ES tarde para salir?---> again, it has a tweak from subjunctive -default case- to indicative in order to add a nuance.

Nuances:
[not requiring other context/ managed with intonation and look]
¿No crees que ES tarde para salir? ---> what's your opinion? -but you should know I think it is-
¿No crees que ES tarde para salir? ---> what's your opinion? -but you should know I expect you to answer affirmatively-
¿No crees que ES tarde para salir? ---> what's your opinion? -but you should know I'm afraid you're gonna answer affirmatively-

[generally requiring context]
¿Crees que el gas aumentA esta semana? ---> do you have such erroneous piece of information?
¿Crees que el gas aumentA esta semana? ---> would you bet that?
¿Crees que el gas aumentA esta semana? ---> I trust you and I'll do as if what you reply is true - what you say settles it or dispels any doubt, in my opinion.
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,but pensar que does not take the subjunctive. (a puzzlement for anglo students)

As and English speaker, I don't see a big difference between pensar and creer, but among native Spanish speakers there is.
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Muchas gracias a ambos por sus comentarios. Voy a tener presente sus comentarios y a seguir buscando mas ejemplos dentro de un contexto a ver si se me hace mas facil comprenderlo y explicarlo.
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