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Old August 22, 2012, 09:22 AM
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Etimología de 'subjuntivo'

Quizás es un poco tecnico, pero ¿hay una relación entre 'subjuntivo' y 'subjetivo'? Es a decir: cuando se usa el subjuntivo hay un elemento de subjetividad. ¿Es coincidencia, o tienen las dos palabras un raiz en comun?
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Quizás es un poco tecnico, pero ¿hay una relación entre 'subjuntivo' y 'subjetivo'? Es a decir: cuando se usa el subjuntivo hay un elemento de subjetividad. ¿Es coincidencia, o tienen las dos palabras un raiz en comun?
In a word, no. Subjunctive is from Latin subjungere, and subjective is from Latin subjectivus. The Latin for subjunctive is an attempt to translate from the Greek upotaktike egklisis, one of the recognized moods. Subjectivus is from a completely different root. The preposition sub makes them look similar, though.
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So be it.
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Gracias,
Si, busqué por el "online etymology dictionary" y no pude encontrar un raiz en comun, por lo menos hasta la aparencia de las palabras en forma moderna.
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Sí, busqué por el "online etymology dictionary" y no pude encontrar una raíz en común, por lo menos hasta la aparencia de las palabras en forma moderna.
(I give you a couple of corrections to your Spanish.)

Si = if
Sí = Yes

una raíz (a root, a stem) is feminine in Spanish.
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Oh mon dieu! Tiene razon, raíz es un sustantivo feminino! Tambien necesito recordar que hay una diferencia entre si y sí: Nunca lo noté.
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Oh mon dieu! Tienes razón, raíz es un sustantivo femenino! También necesito recordar que hay una diferencia entre si y sí: Nunca lo noté.
Voilà... "cada día se aprende algo"...

Sí, si "subjuntivo" y "subjetivo" tuvieran la misma etimología, entonces todo cambiaría... (por poner otro ejemplo...) (quizá no cambiaría nada...)
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Sí, mas errores. ¿Como se dice "just another ignorant gringo"?
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No, no, "ignorant" is the one who doesn't want to learn, the one who doesn't want to know more... (which is not your case)

Si lo supiéramos todo, no haría falta aprender...
If we knew everything, one would not need to learn...

There are "conventions" to learn, but like my mom used to say, "No hay peor ignorante que el que no quiere aprender..."
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Gracias, estoy tratando de escribir sin hacer errores, pero es muy facile de olvidar acentos, especialmente.

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