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Old February 28, 2011, 03:26 PM
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Question ¡Media vuelta, ar!

This (loosely) would be something like "To the rear march!" in English.

While DRAE defines "ar" as follows,

ar.
1. interj. Mil. U. para ordenar la ejecución inmediata de un movimiento.




My question is, any idea of the actual derivation of this interjection "ar"?
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Old February 28, 2011, 04:40 PM
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¿Ar?
Interesante, nunca la había oído ...suena como a inglés de pirata. Arrr!


En México se dice "ya":

¡Media vuelta, ya!
¡Alto, ya!
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dicen que proviene de "mar".
Lo que no sé si ese "mar" es del océano o a su vez se acorte de "marchen" ...
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¿Ar?
Interesante, nunca la había oído ...suena como a inglés de pirata. Arrr!
Actually, some think it is Shakespeare (sorry, only joking)

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@Sosia: Es posible que venga de "¡marchen!", suena lógico, aunque lo más cercano que he oído es "¡mrch!" en algún chiste de Les Luthiers.

@Perikles: Gracias, es un buen ejercicio de listening comprehension.
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This (loosely) would be something like "To the rear march!" in English.

While DRAE defines "ar" as follows,

ar.
1. interj. Mil. U. para ordenar la ejecución inmediata de un movimiento.
After reading the above definition of "ar", I would say "¡Media vuelta, ar!" is exactly like "To the rear, march!" or "About face, march!" in English. That "march!" can get quite clipped and sound like "ar!" when barked percussively by a drill instructor. It makes me wonder if some type of borrowing is going on here between Spanish and English.

What is the date of the phrase's source?
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Military commands often abbreviate words while retaining the
basic phonetic impact...
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Thank you all!
That was very helpful and fun!
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