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Old October 07, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Usa el llamado "imperfecto de subjuntivo literario":

Es llamado «imperfecto de subjuntivo literario» por aparecer con notoria frecuencia en la lengua escrita. Los «puristas» lo consideran arcaizante y vicioso.

http://www.elcastellano.org/consulta...dicativo&Pag=1

(y estoy de acuerdo)
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Old October 07, 2009, 01:46 PM
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"Pareciera que se dan cuenta" is absolutely correct.

"It would seem that they realize..."

The verb tense is used to express that one doesn't expect the children to be considerate and let their parents have some rest.
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"Pareciera que se dan cuenta" is absolutely correct.

"It would seem that they realize..."

The verb tense is used to express that one doesn't expect the children to be considerate and let their parents have some rest.
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"Pareciera que se dan cuenta" is absolutely correct.

"It would seem that they realize..."

The verb tense is used to express that one doesn't expect the children to be considerate and let their parents have some rest.
To me it says "it seemed... as opposed to would seem"
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Yes, that's a exception to the rule, but using the subjunctive makes it sound insulting--like somehow you doubt the illness.
Siento que + indicative: I feel that / sense that. Siento que + subjunctive: I'm sorry that.
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Old October 08, 2009, 05:13 AM
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Old October 08, 2009, 08:50 AM
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@Bob: It's common when you use a formal language. The most common equivalent sentence would be "parecería que se dan cuenta", but at least around here, in similar cases, both verbal tenses are "universally" understood and interexchangeable.

@Hernán: Discrepo. Tú sabes más inglés que yo, pero "it seemed" no regresa al español como "pareciera" o "parecería", sino como "pareció". "Pareciera" mantiene la posibilidad de que se repita el que los niños tengan esas consideraciones involuntarias hacia los adultos. "Pareció" lo manda a una sola vez.
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@Bob: It's common when you use a formal language. The most common equivalent sentence would be "parecería que se dan cuenta", but at least around here, in similar cases, both verbal tenses are "universally" understood and interexchangeable.

@Hernán: Discrepo. Tú sabes más inglés que yo, pero "it seemed" no regresa al español como "pareciera" o "parecería", sino como "pareció". "Pareciera" mantiene la posibilidad de que se repita el que los niños tengan esas consideraciones involuntarias hacia los adultos. "Pareció" lo manda a una sola vez.
I agree that 'it seemed' is not right. 'It would seem' is more accurate.

I've never seen the word 'interexchangeable' before. 'interchangeable' is usual.
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Yes, that's a exception to the rule, but using the subjunctive makes it sound insulting--like somehow you doubt the illness.
I'm sure that "siento que" always triggers the subjunctive in the subordinate clause seeing that "sentir" is a verb of emotion. I don't think it is correct to say "siento que tú estuviste enfermo" under any circumstances.


Verbs of emotion. Expressions such as to be happy (estar alegre, alegrarse de), to be sad (estar triste), to fear, be afraid (temer, tener miedo de) to hope (esperar), to feel sorry, regret (sentir, dar lástima), to like, be pleased, be delighted (gustar, agradar, encantar), to dislike, be displeased (disgustar, desagradar), to be surprised (sorprender, estar sorprendido), etc., likewise require the use of the subjunctive in clauses they govern.

Espero que vengan. I hope they come.
Siento
que ella no esté aquí.
I'm sorry she's not here.
Me alegro de que vaya a Madrid. I'm glad he's going to Madrid.
Temo que haya muchos problemas. I fear there are many problems.
Tengo miedo de
que no llegue.
I'm afraid she won't arrive.
¿Te gusta que sea tan fácil?
Are you pleased it's so easy?
Le sorprende que vivamos así. He's surprised we live like that.
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@Bob: It's common when you use a formal language. The most common equivalent sentence would be "parecería que se dan cuenta", but at least around here, in similar cases, both verbal tenses are "universally" understood and interexchangeable.

@Hernán: Discrepo. Tú sabes más inglés que yo, pero "it seemed" no regresa al español como "pareciera" o "parecería", sino como "pareció". "Pareciera" mantiene la posibilidad de que se repita el que los niños tengan esas consideraciones involuntarias hacia los adultos. "Pareció" lo manda a una sola vez.
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I agree that 'it seemed' is not right. 'It would seem' is more accurate.

I've never seen the word 'interexchangeable' before. 'interchangeable' is usual.
Me parece que yo lo tomo así:

it seemed that = pareciera que, parecía que, pareció que

It would seem = parecería

Would it seem that I am still wrong?

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