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Old September 08, 2014, 12:39 PM
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The best movie I have ever seen

I think you say La major película que jamás he visto.
Is that correct?

I don't think it makes sense to say La major película que nunca he visto.
Is that correct?
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Old September 08, 2014, 01:06 PM
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Only the first one is correct for that meaning, even with subjunctive:

La mejor película que jamás haya visto.


With "nunca" it means, in fact, you haven't watched that movie until the date.

A pleasure.
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Old September 08, 2014, 02:05 PM
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¿Se puede decir "La mejor pelicula que he visto jamás." ?
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Old September 08, 2014, 02:37 PM
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@Jelly: yes, but with the subjunctive, as Julvenzor wrote it.



...or, more commonly heard in Spanish, "la mejor película que he visto en mi vida".
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Old September 08, 2014, 02:57 PM
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"Jamás" triggers the subjuntive?
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Creo que sí. El "jamás" hace que la oración contenga una componente inalcanzable.

Si dijera: "es la mejor película que he visto", el horizonte temporal queda definido implícitamente, y el subjuntivo no es necesario.
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If we look at it in a mechanical way, the "terminos de polaridad negativa" like jamás, nunca and en mi vida, call for subjunctive. The fact is that both sentences have different meanings, a nuance, in the eyes of English speakers -and most other languages- and a strikingly different meaning, for a native speaker:

"la mejor película que he visto" (it's a rational approach; the speaker is supposed to have come to that conclusion through some process of analysis)
"la mejor película que jamás haya visto" (it's an emotional/perceptive approach; the speaker feels that way now: give him or her a couple of days to think about it and that opinion may change).

"La mejor película que jamás he visto" is correct, very unusual as it's pretty absolutist.
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Thanks everyone. I heard :la mejor película que jamás he visto (or at least that's the way I heard it). It's good to know that sometimes there's a difference between the words jamás and nunca.
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"...que nunca haya visto" is also valid, but "jamás" has a certain charming dramatic tone.

Even though this might be regional usage, the adverb without the subjunctive doesn't sound right to me. ;(
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