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Old July 27, 2009, 06:55 PM
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Tratar de aprender las diferencias en la pronunciación entre español latinoamericano y europeo. (I need help correcting this sentence too)

I bought a computer program to learn Spanish then realized it was European Spanish but I originally wanted to start with Latin American. I decided to stick with the program I have and also bought a book with exercises. I would like to know the differences in pronunciation.

So far I noticed in the book;

Latin America - in c + e, i; the "c" is pronounced as "s" instead of "th"
"ll" is pronounced as "y"
z is pronounced as "s"

Are those the major differences? What about jeuogo (the book pronounces it with the phonetics khweh-go) or gigante (khee-gahn-teh)? Are these correct?
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Old July 27, 2009, 07:27 PM
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Tratar de aprender las diferencias en la pronunciación entre español latinoamericano y europeo. (I need help correcting this sentence too)

I bought a computer program to learn Spanish then realized it was European Spanish but I originally wanted to start with Latin American. I decided to stick with the program I have and also bought a book with exercises. I would like to know the differences in pronunciation.

So far I noticed in the book;

Latin America - in c + e, i; the "c" is pronounced as "s" instead of "th"
"ll" is pronounced as "y"
z is pronounced as "s"

Are those the major differences? What about jeuogo (the book pronounces it with the phonetics khweh-go) or gigante (khee-gahn-teh)? Are these correct?
Querría añadir que en Argentina pronuncian LL como "sh"

Me llamo
/meh/ shamo/

La principia diferencia entre ambos es que en España se usan vosotros, no estoy seguro de las diferencias de la pronunciación.

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Trato de aprender las diferencias en la pronunciación entre español latinoamericano y europeo.
Quizá puedes decir

Trato de aprender/Quisiera saber las diferencias entre cómo las palabras (españolas) son pronunciadas por los Españoles y los Latinoamericanos
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Old July 27, 2009, 08:10 PM
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Querría añadir que en Argentina pronuncian LL como "sh"

Me llamo
/meh/ shamo/

La principia diferencia entre ambos es que en España se usan vosotros, no estoy seguro de las diferencias de la pronunciación.

Quizá puedes decir

Trato de aprender/Quisiera saber las diferencias entre cómo las palabras (españolas) son pronunciadas por los Españoles y los Latinoamericanos
/meh/ shahmo/

A little correction on your pronunciation.
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/meh/ shahmo/

A little correction on your pronunciation.
Esta prononciación me parece como "chamo-me" en el portugués.
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/yamo /shamo for me is fine, it's not a too large sound. (it's like the shi/sha/sho of japanese)

Hmm diferences...

Oh... here we don't respect as much as in europe the "z"... (definetely is like an "s")

Then, the main diference is about the words that are frequently use and some acents - tones.
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/meh/ shahmo/

A little correction on your pronunciation.
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/yamo /shamo for me is fine, it's not a too large sound. (it's like the shi/sha/sho of japanese)

Hmm diferences...

Oh... here we don't respect as much as in europe the "z"... (definetely is like an "s")

Then, the main diference is about the words that are frequently use and some acents - tones.
Hi:

yamo in English would be pronounced as iamo.

Most latins and others will pronounce you as YU and it should IÚ.

YU is the pronunciation of JEW and it means judío,a
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Hi:

yamo in English would be pronounced as iamo.

Most latins and others will pronounce you as YU and it should IÚ.

YU is the pronunciation of JEW and it means judío,a
I see where it goes, thanks chileno.
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"ll" is pronounced as "y"
Pronounciation of "Ll" is a fairly individual matter. I've travelled in Cuba, Ecuador, and Spain (where I live), and in all three countries I've heard at least three pronounciations:
1. Elongated "L"
2. "Y" (according to one of my Spanish Spanish teachers, "Todo el mundo es yeísta")
3. "Dj" (as in the English loan-word from Arabic, "djinn").

I would characterise the Argentinian pronounciation as "zh" rather than "sh".
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Pronounciation of "Ll" is a fairly individual matter. I've travelled in Cuba, Ecuador, and Spain (where I live), and in all three countries I've heard at least three pronounciations:
1. Elongated "L"
2. "Y" (according to one of my Spanish Spanish teachers, "Todo el mundo es yeísta")
3. "Dj" (as in the English loan-word from Arabic, "djinn").

I would characterise the Argentinian pronounciation as "zh" rather than "sh".
Hi:

Sh for me is more phonetically accurate to appeal to the English mind...

The minute you look at a word like that, your mind does not have problems in trying to cope with pronunciation, instead of weird Universal/international phonetic symbology.

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