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Patterns of variation between men and women speakers

May book says that there are patterns of variation in language between the English speakers according to their sex. For instance, the author says that schoolgirls in Scotland seem to pronounce the /t/ in words like water, while boys prefer a glottal stop (Wardhaugh, 2002). Trudgill (1972) says that in a study carried out in Norwich, he found that women tended to be more conservative in terms of language than men, who used to show more language change.

What do you think? Do you agree with these statements?

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Yes. This is especially apparent among young people. In the United States young women (often upper middle class) speak in a sing-song jargon called valley talk. I sounds almost Mandarin or Madrid Castillian. I think if bacame popular because it is easily heard on mobile phones. Very few men talk valley.

As far a the glottal stop for water among Scots is concerned, I have heard Scottish women using it. Pronouncing the t in
water is higher class.
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It's difficult to generalize. My daughter speaks with an irritating habit of finishing every sentence several notes higher than the rest of the sentence, as do all her girlfriends, but her husband doesn't, and neither does my son. This is without any noticeable regional accent. Why is this?
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I have noticed this in young women in the Stats too. It must be an international phenomenon, though I doubt it has reached the Phillipines.
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I'd like to listen to some sentence ending with that high pitch.
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Look here:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2041258_talk...lley-girl.html

I do not endorse this accent.
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May book says that there are patterns of variation in language between the English speakers according to their sex. For instance, the author says that schoolgirls in Scotland seem to pronounce the /t/ in words like water, while boys prefer a glottal stop (Wardhaugh, 2002). Trudgill (1972) says that in a study carried out in Norwich, he found that women tended to be more conservative in terms of language than men, who used to show more language change.

What do you think? Do you agree with these statements?

Thank you.
I am sure it must happen the same thing in Spain. It does in Chile.

What's more, more likely you (the reader) must have adopted some (annoying to your parents) speech pattern when in school years.

Which brings to mind: You are a unique individual, just like everybody else.
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Acá es terrible como hablan la mayoría de las mujeres jovenes (lo que no quiere decir que el resto de la población no hable mal, solo que es menos terrible)
Yo creo que si siguen así, dentro de poco se van a ganar la proclamación de ser integrantes de una especie distinta a la humana. Esperemos que dicha especie esté protegida por alguna ley de caza, porque si no van a estar en peligro de extinción pronto
Prometo mostrar algún video de como hablan más tarde.

* Los mozalbetes no quedan excluídos, pero son más recatados.
** chileno, me hiciste acordar que yo adopté un patrón bastante molesto para mis padres... el hablar mejor que ellos
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http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/000873.html
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Thanks for the links, I don't have time to read them, but I'll do later. I'm very interested in this topic.

And I'm not sure if here women speak in a different way from men Surely there must be differences, but this is my first approach to Sociolinguistics in depth and there are questions that I had never asked myself before . However, the few things that I've read about the links and your answers remind me (if there can be any comparison) more to "el habla pija" than a difference between women and men. Anyway, I've read something about the topics used to talk about, but I don't agree that the topics would be a gender difference, but a cultural or educational one, instead. I can see a difference in politeness in both way of speaking and, maybe, women are more sweet than men, who would be a bit more aggressive in their statements. Neither the timbre would be a difference studied in Linguistics, since this is a biological difference.

Actually, I should think, study and listen to other people to realise the differences.
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