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Old March 25, 2011, 08:42 PM
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Question Make a citizen out of somebody

citizen out of, make a
a coined phrase meaning to get a person to operate in the manner of or to the standard expected of a particular group and its members; to initiate or orient, as to the way things are, the realities of a situation.

What would be the equivalent in Spanish?

Hacer de ti un ciudadano de provecho?

Enseñarte lo que vale un peine?

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Old March 27, 2011, 07:46 AM
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"te voy a convertir en alguien"
"te voy a hacer un gran hombre"
"voy a hacer de tí alguien de provecho/un hombre de provecho"
"te voy a formar/te voy a iniciar"
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"Voy a convertirte en alguien de bien"

Es una opción también
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Mi abuelo usaba "hacerse hombre", y "hacerse hombrecito", cuando quería ser sarcástico.
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Muchas gracias a todos por las opciones.

En el contexto donde me aparece en inglés, tiene un aire algo sarcástico, como "te voy a enseñar" "eso te enseñará"... parecido a la expresión (incorrecta en inglés) "that will learn you"* (en vez de "that will teach you"), pero las opciones me sirven.
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"te voy a enseñar cómo es la vida"
"te voy a hacer aprender algunas cosas"
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¡Gracias Sosia!
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"Vas a ver lo que es hacerse hombrecito", habría dicho mi abuelo, probablemente.
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¡Ah, eso también me suena!
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