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Old November 10, 2008, 08:08 AM
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Adverbs of frequency, sometimes and usually

Using the adverbs of frequency sometimes and usually in sapnish is a little bit confusing to me. I always use a veces for both of them.
Is this correct or is there another word that differentiates
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sometimes: de vez en cuando, a veces
usually: normalmente, generalmente, usualmente, con frecuencia, a menudo
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If a menudo translates as usually, what would often mean
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The one that can vary most from English is the word usually. You can use
usualmente but it's nice to know and use alternate ways to say the same
thing. In Spanish soler + infinative is used. (Suelo ir de compras solo. = Usualmente voy de compras solo)
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I teach frequency on a hallidian scale between two poles, always and never, it works

English:
+ always
every day-usually
often
sometimes
....

Spanish

+siempre
todos los dias
a menudo
a veces

'Usualmente' does not sound like common usage on this side of the puddle
Often may translate for frecuentemente
Not really a lexical group with a word-to-word matching for translation
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I don't think usualmente is used often on this side of the Atlantic either, but it is usually be understood. I think soler + infinitive is more frequently used than frequentamente.
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Soler+infinitive kinda needs an adverb. It is felt as a bit narrative. It's good, though oral lg prefers more straight layouts.

Ellos solian comer temprano.
Ellos comian temprano (todos los dias/los dias entre semana).

Suelo ir al gimnasio (tres veces por semana/a menudo,....)
Voy al gimnasio (....)

If the adverb is not present, the listener may feel the statement is too general

Periphrastic patterns account for a lot of common patterns in english, such as 'going to', ir a+inf
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Very fuzzy lexical group, it would often arise qs like 'What's more frequent, usually or often?

Translation is not a good reference. It is a common mistake among TEFL spanish teachers to assign a one-to-one translation in this group, of the kind:

usually=usualmente, also present form of soler+inf
I usually go shopping late in the evening
I used to go shopping....

often= a menudo
frequently=frecuentemente

I believe these translations may be fine, but not always...
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