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Old January 27, 2009, 03:05 PM
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Ser, Estar, AR, ER, IR

I am just starting to learn spanish and already having a tough time. What is all this Verb stuff in laymen terms? I mean Ser verb Yo Soy = "I AM" but Estar verb Estoy = "I AM" as well and what about these AR,ER and IR verbs?
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Old January 27, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Firstly, I bid you welcome.

Now it come the explication above your question.

Ser- To be
Estar- Are, Is first person and second person also in third person.

The endings Ar, Er, Ir, they only are endings of verbs or words, for example, eat (Comer), Go (Ir), To be (Estar).


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Old January 27, 2009, 03:37 PM
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As an English speaker learning Spanish, Dave, I also say "welcome!" o, "Bienvenido!" You will find the people here to be EXTREMELY helpful, patient, and SOOOOooo encouraging!!

It has helped me to understand that the verb "ser" typically indicates a more permanent condition. Like "Yo soy de Buffalo, New York." It means that I am from Buffalo, NY - which can never change. It's a permanent thing about me.

But "estar" is a temporary thing. For example, "Yo estoy leyendo un libro." It means that I am reading a book. I obviously don't have a book surgically attached to my hand. I am only reading it right now. So it's temporary.

I think that it's a bit confusing to learn ser & estar at first. There are also very many idiomatic usages that will creep in. Keep learning, keep practicing, keep ASKING questions!

I'll let the grammarians answer the "-ar", "-er" and "-ir" question. The verb conjugations really knock me out!
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The Tomísimo dictionary gives presents the verb in question in all its forms. Just pick a verb, look it up, and you will see how much the dicionary will help.
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Good done laepelba, you have explained him very well, keep improving your Spanish.
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I'm having a BLAST learning it, Crotalito!
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This thread tells you all you need to know about when to use SER and ESTAR. Because this question comes up so often, you'll find this post pinned to the top of the grammar forum (it'll always be on top).

The three classes of verbs are just that - three different types of verbs. Each type of verb has its own conjugation rules. Many chapters can be written about verb conjugation, so do yourself a favor - take everything one bite at a time! Eventually, it'll all make sense.
Most people choose HABLAR, COMER and VIVIR as a model for each verb type. They then learn how to conjugate each type into the present tense (the -AR ending is stripped off and a person-appropriate ending is added; the -ER ending is stripped off and a person-appropriate ending is added; the -IR ending is stripped off and a person-appropriate ending is added). Then they tackle another tense. And on it goes.

SER and ESTAR are irregular verbs, as far as conjugation goes, but are still classified by their ending (-ER and -AR). Adding another irregular verb to the list, IR, you've now got a model from each verb class (-AR, -ER- and -IR). Because these verbs are irregular, they deviate from the simpler rules the regular verbs 'enjoy'. I suggest you start with the regular verbs I listed above first. Tackle the irregular verbs only after you've got a handle on the regular verbs.

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Great!!!! Thanks to all and thanks to laepelba from your expanation I got it... estar = Sick, walking, drinking and so on Ser = Arm, Leg, Building, Work and so on.....

Now I am still confused on the IR,ER and AR thing but will study it

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Welcome, Dave. what don't you understand about the verb endings? I will try to help you
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Old January 28, 2009, 10:42 AM
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I understand the stem and how to add the ending but I am confused on what ending (ir,er or ar) to use. Take "You Work" = trabajas the "-as" is because it is "you" so tu trabjas can it not be trabajes as well??? tu trabjes??
Why or why not??? I just don't know when to change the stem to ir,er or ar

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