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Old December 13, 2008, 01:13 AM
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¿(v)os?

One of the first times I were having Spanish at school we were going through reflexive verbs like llamarse and levantarse, and the teacher asked if anyone knew how the reflexive pronouns looked like. I raised my hand and went through the forms, but he stopped me when I came to the second person plural form, where I had said, vos. He said it was incorrect, and that I should use os instead. I was kind of surprised as I had learned it as being vos, but after I had surfed the internet, I realized that it seems like both are equally used. So my question is simply whether one of them are more correct than the other, and if there is a difference between them grammatically, or maybe regionally?
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Old December 13, 2008, 02:17 AM
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Vos and os are different. Os is the second person plural and vos is a second person singluar form. Vos can be thought of as an alternative to , and is used in some parts of Central America and Argentina.
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Old December 13, 2008, 02:20 AM
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The second person singular? As far as I know, the second person singular form is te.

me llamo
te llamas
se llama
nos llamamos
vos/os llamáis
se llaman
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Old December 13, 2008, 02:28 AM
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me llamo
te llamas / vos llamás (or something like that)
se llama
nos llamamos
os llamáis
se llaman

I just did a bit of research on voseo (the vos form), and the reflexive pronoun is generally te, just like with tú.

So... Tú te llamas, Vos te llamás.
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Old December 13, 2008, 02:31 AM
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Well, I should simply use os and not vos?
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Correct, as far as a reflexive pronoun.

Vos, used only in certain countries, is a subject pronoun (replaces , and has a different verb conjugation than ). It also appears where ti can be used.
Quiero darte a vos este libro.
Quiero ir con vos al mercado.
Esto es para vos.
¿Cómo (vos) te llamás?
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Old December 13, 2008, 08:50 AM
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Okay, thanks both of you!

Now I better start using os!
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Good idea, but only if you're in Spain. It isn't used elsewhere (excepto la poesía u otras obras literarias).
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Old December 13, 2008, 11:27 AM
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Oh? Now I'm confused. What's used elsewhere then?

(I tried re-reading the posts, but I couldn't find it mentioned - sorry, if I missed it anyway)
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The vosotros/vosotras forms (informal pluarl) are only used in Spain. In the Americas, they use Ustedes.
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