Modismos Chocarreros.

[Jane]

Originally Posted by Alfonso

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It's funny that you wrote what do you man by...? Can you say I man this, I man that?
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A careless mistake, thanks for pointing it out.

[sosia]

why did you think this thread would go catastrophic?

It has nothing to do with the racist think, it was because I didn't like the poll (encuesta)
Te consideras culto?
Si soy muy culto, y preciso, no digo modismos.
Soy regular, soy estudiado y se usar mis modismos.

I thought it was too white or too black, so I didn't answer. There are lots of people (for example old farm people, whith no studies) who has a narrower variety of knowledge, but they use this narrow knowledge perfectly. They make no faults, or incorrect expresions. They do not use cultivate words, but their words express what they want.

I consider myself "culto", but I can use modismos, slang or whatever word I found it's the right there. I try to use the proper words in the proper moment. It's not the same talking to young people or with old people. An extreme example is Japanese.

saludos

[poli]

Originally Posted by sosia

It has nothing to do with the racist think, it was because I didn't like the poll (encuesta)
Te consideras culto?
Si soy muy culto, y preciso, no digo modismos.
Soy regular, soy estudiado y se usar mis modismos.

I thought it was too white or too black, so I didn't answer. There are lots of people (for example old farm people, whith no studies) who has a narrower variety of knowledge, but they use this narrow knowledge perfectly. They make no faults, or incorrect expresions. They do not use cultivate words, but their words express what they want.

I consider myself "culto", but I can use modismos, slang or whatever word I found it's the right there. I try to use the proper words in the proper moment. It's not the same talking to young people or with old people. An extreme example is Japanese.

saludos

I agree. Sometimes surveys are very slanted (meaning Manipulative)

[poli]

Originally Posted by Alfonso

This is harsh!
Es mucho más fácil encontrar dureza en las opiniones ajenas, especialmente cuando estamos en desacuerdo, que en las propias.

But I will not get offended at all because of it.

Thanks a lot for your corrections.

No estaba especialmente en desacuerdo contigo en lo que escribiste. Lo que quería decir es que el modo en que lo comunicaste sonó un poquito ofensivo en inglés, y si no era su intención sonar crudo, te puedo mostrar
como se puede decir la misma cosa en un modo más gentíl.

PS
On a different subject: As an example of how an English speaker may poke fun at a foreigner can be seen in the movie
Borat. This comedy was criticized for its morbosidad, but it was successul in the US and Britain. Was it shown in Spain?
If so, did people understand it?
I accept what you say, but I find surprizing that Spanish people do not find the mis-use of language by their countrymen
or foreigners comical.
See another thread about malapropisms. I think language misuse, and cultural misunderstanding can be very funny.

[CrOtALiTo]

Let's see.

Alfonso and sosia.

I think what you two have desviated of the point exact of this thread, now, Alfonso think, what I'm a person hypocrite and racialism, look, I'm not any of the two way, only I express my own viem point, I'm sorry if you Alfonso felt offended with my comments about it, more late I answered your questions.

[Elaina]

It's good to disagree and to discuss a certain viewpoint. These kinds of discussions are very stimulating, informative, educational and refreshing.

I guess we can all agree that not only will you have disagreements in politics & religion but now also in language and its proper use.

[CrOtALiTo]

I'm agreed with you, Elaina.

Look, I think, what the use correct of l

[CrOtALiTo]

I'm agreed with you, Elaina.

Look, I think, what the use correct of language is the way free of expression of a person, I don't believe that the diferent level social doesn't show disagree with the people that use modismos, I've seen it, for that I told you, in Mexico the people is racialism, I'm not so, but Alfonso believe that I'm so, and what my words are very hypocrites, and with the said Alfonso, I don't agreed, because, Only I try of give a message sane about the use of the modismos in diferent contries.

[Elaina]

To tell you the truth, I don't think Alfonso was accusing you of being a racist or a hypocrite. I think that he was debating your viewpoint about "modismos" and their use and who uses them and their place in a language......which he is entitled to.

[Alfonso]

Originally Posted by poli

No estaba especialmente en desacuerdo contigo en lo que escribiste. Lo que quería decir es que el modo en que lo comunicaste sonó un poquito ofensivo en inglés, y si no era tu intención sonar crudo, te puedo mostrar cómo se puede decir la misma cosa en un modo más gentil.

OK, I see... was it a little harsh?

Hey, I didn't say that in Spain the way of talking cannot be funny due to different reasons. Of course, it can be. Actually, it is. What I said is that this is not a common reason for discrimination.

Borat was shown here some time ago. I'm sorry I didn't watch it, so I don't have an opinion about it.