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Old March 21, 2008, 05:33 PM
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Derechohabientes - Necesito ayuda

Hola,

No se como traducir la palabra "derechohabientes" Quizas sera "insured"?

Fue llevado a cabo en un centro médico de tercer nivel de atención de salud para derechohabientes registrados, nivel socioeconómico medio y medio bajo.

It was carried out at a third level health care center for registered derechohabientes, middle and middle low socioeconomic status.

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Old March 21, 2008, 09:56 PM
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Derechoshabientes (derechos-habientes | derechos habientes) se traduce 'rights holders' o 'right holders' en inglés. Se puede escribir con guión, también.

Traduciría yo la frase así:

It was carried out at a third-level healthcare center for registered rights holders, mid- and low-mid-socioeconomic status.

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Old March 22, 2008, 05:06 AM
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En español derechohabientes o derecho-habientes es una palabra muy rara. Sin duda es español exclusivamente jurídico.

El uso de haber por tener está muy anticuado.

Para resultar un poco más moderno y comprensible, el texto español debería sustituir derechohabientes por benefactores de la seguridad social, personas con derecho a la atención médica, asegurados (depende del contexto), etc. Es más largo, pero más claro.

Además, falta una preposición y sobra una coma:
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Fue llevado a cabo en un centro médico de tercer nivel de atención de salud para derechohabientes registrados de nivel socioeconómico medio y medio bajo.
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Old March 22, 2008, 06:17 AM
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Sí, si puede usar otra selección, como sugerió Alfonso, podría darle una traducción mejor. No suena bien decir 'rights holders' en esta frase.

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Hola Gomey:

For your question.... what was carried out? Makes a difference in the translation as I need to know what was carried out.



"It was carried out at a third level health care center for registered derechohabientes, middle and middle low socioeconomic status"

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Gracias por las repuestas. I translated the material as follows:

Material and methods
Prospective, longitudinal, open and observational study performed from August 1, 2006 to December 2006. It was carried out in a third level of care medical center for registered insured, of mid and low mid socioeconomic status. The diagnosis of strabismus was performed by the Department of Strabismus. The first phase of the study consists of the diagnosis of sensiromotor functions, visual motor skills, and depressive changes in children with strabismus. Included in the study were children 4 to 10 years of age, with diagnosis of recurrent strabismus, who had binocularity defect, cooperative, and with diagnosis of psychomotor developmental delay or aggregated systemic diseases.

Material y métodos
Estudio prospectivo, longitudinal, abierto y observacional, realizado del 1 de agosto de 2006 al 1 de diciembre de 2006. Fue llevado a cabo en un centro médico de tercer nivel de atención de salud para derechohabientes registrados, nivel socioeconómico medio y medio bajo. El diagnóstico de estrabismo fue realizado por el Departamento de Estrabismo. La primera fase del estudio consiste en el diagnóstico de las funciones sensoriomotoras, habilidades visomotoras y cambios depresivos en niños con estrabismo. Se incluyeron en el estudio, niños de cuatro a 10 años de edad, con diagnóstico de estrabismo recurrente, que cursaban con defecto de binocularidad, cooperadores y sin diagnóstico de retraso en el desarrollo psicomotor ni enfermedades sistémicas agregadas.

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The first sentence is a fragment in both versions, so I guess that doesn't need addressed. However, the words "registered insured" don't make sense. Here is what I would suggest:

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Prospective, longitudinal, open and observational study performed from August 1, 2006 to December 2006. It was carried out in a third-level healthcare center for insured individuals, of mid- to low-mid-socioeconomic status. The diagnosis of strabismus was performed by the Department of Strabismus. The first phase of the study consisted in the diagnosis of sensorimotor functions, visual motor skills, and depressive changes in children with strabismus. Included in the study were cooperative children, 4 to 10 years of age, with a diagnosis of recurrent strabismus who often had problems with binocularity, and without a diagnosis of psychomotor developmental delay or aggregated systemic diseases.
The hyphens are necessary in proper English.
I believe the past tense should have been used, since the study occurred in the past.
I moved 'cooperative' to a more logical position and removed superfluous commas.
I opted for 'often had problems with' as a clearer way to say cursaban con defecto de.
Finally, the word sin was not translated correctly in your version.

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Thank you Rusty for your help. This is a very awkwardly written medical paper, which will need more brushing up once I do the first draft. Your suggestions are appreciated.

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Wow Rusty, I think yours is a great translation. It's clearer than the Spanish text. So you didn't only translate it, you also improved it.

Regarding Gomey's work, I guess that maybe you're hired only to do a more or less literal translation, a first draft, and that there will be, after your work, a corrector de pruebas (I don't know what to call this in English, it's a specific job at editorial companies), who would have the task of brushing up your work.

Rusty, your explanations about your decisions are also really interesting. I've learnt a lot!
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