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Old August 29, 2011, 01:02 PM
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Hmm. . .

I've always used "espero que" to say "I hope that. . ."

I hope my meaning was not misunderstood.
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Hmm. . .

I've always used "espero que" to say "I hope that. . ."

I hope my meaning was not misunderstood.
I don't think so. A Spanish speaker, as Perikles said, doesn't notice the difference and he won't think much of it. His mind is not made to misunderstand what you're saying.

I don't know know if what I'm saying makes any sense at all..
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A lot depends on context. There's room for misunderstanding, but often
context clears that up.
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Old August 29, 2011, 01:24 PM
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Well I'm thinking a situation like, "Espero que recibirás el dinero,"for instance.

"I hope that you will receive the money" and "I expect that you will receive the money" both make perfect sense, but both have very different meanings.
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Well I'm thinking a situation like, "Espero que recibirás el dinero,"for instance.

"I hope that you will receive the money" and "I expect that you will receive the money" both make perfect sense, but both have very different meanings.
That is esperar que + indicative, which should mean I expect. .....Is that right, or do I drown myself now?
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Well I'm thinking a situation like, "Espero que recibirás el dinero,"for instance.

"I hope that you will receive the money" and "I expect that you will receive the money" both make perfect sense, but both have very different meanings.
It may be just that there are not enough spanish verbs for those meanings. And we've survived!

I myself was shocked when learnt that there was just one verb for ser and estar in English. For a spanish speaker mind, they have different meanings also. I remember that I was thinking that a language without those meanings wouldn't work, that a lot of misunderstandings would happen. But again, English has survived!

I think that most of the spanish speakers would find difficulty with understanding the different meanings of hope and expect. Frankly, I'm not completely confident when I have to deal with them.

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Old August 31, 2011, 02:15 PM
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A hope is almost like a plegaria. An expectation is much less so.
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Maybe the discussion in this thread might also be of help.
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Old August 31, 2011, 02:37 PM
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Thanks, but almost like and much less so are not such a very objective rules. I think we learn their use mainly by reading or listening. Hopefully we can get it. But I wouldn't expect anybody to learn how to use them just from a rule.

There's a sentence from some Monty Python's sketches that has helped me a lot:
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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I think it's simple (or at least I think it is).

examples:I expect good weather today (that's what the forcast says)
I hope it's nice today (we have a picnic planned)
She's expecting a child (a old fashioned term for pregnant)
She hopes to have a child.

Hope has a prayer-like quality. Expect does not.
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