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An idiom is an expression whose meaning is not readily apparent based on the individual words in the expression. This forum is dedicated to discussing idioms and other sayings.


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Old January 15, 2009, 11:19 AM
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Diamond,

This structure that you used seems so strange to me:

"Se me ha olvidado mucho de mi español."

The part in in parentheses is unusual for me:

Se me "ha" olvidado de "mi" español.

Why not change ha to he: "he olvidado de mi Español."???

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This is a very common construction in Spanish. Literally translated you could say "My spanish has forgotten itself to me". It doesn't translate well, does it?

The "me" in the sentence is the object in the sentence, not the subject. Similar to the "me" in "me gusta comer in ese restaurante". "Eating in that restaurant is pleasing to me". Again, the "me" is the object. It would normally be translated as "I like eating in that restaurant."

Another example: "Se me cayeron los vasos." "The glasses dropped themselves to me." Or, in everyday English "I dropped the glasses."

It doesn't seem very intuitive for an English speaker, but after awhile when you hear phrases like this you stop translating them and they become second nature.

BTW, you can say something like "yo no me olvido de mis amigos" where the "me" is used reflexively, not as the object and it's a perfectly grammatical sentence.

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Old January 16, 2009, 09:38 AM
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Tacuba,

Your answer was right on the money, the issue is very clear now in my mind.

Thanks a lot!

Silopanna
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Old January 16, 2009, 09:54 AM
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Tacuba,

Your answer was right on the money, the issue is very clear now in my mind.

Thanks a lot!

Silopanna
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