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Declinación de los sustantivos
Hola,
¿Es cierto que los sustantivos declinan sólo en : género y número ? por ej. género- femenino - gata, masculino- gato número - singular- gata/gato , plural- gatas/gatos |
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I'm not sure it is correct to say that nouns decline with gender. Gato is the epicene name for a cat of either sex. Perro is dog, again epicene, with perra for bitch, but this is not really a declination. Nouns only decline with a plural ending.
Adjectives, however, can decline with gender and number (only) Let's see what Rusty says. |
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Whoa, thats new for me. I always thought they decline in gender too I hope Rusty will answer Is perr- the lexema of the word? and gat- ? if so, maybe it is possible to add there the feminine "a" and masculine "o" ... but then, its just guessing |
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Perhaps you are confusing the declination of nouns and adjectives? |
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Hmm.. what would be the declination of nouns in this case? the adjective declination is already clear to me (the previous post). Im really confused now Here for example : http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustant...or_g.C3.A9nero It says that : Según el número, en castellano, los sustantivos se clasifican en:
so for example : niñ- could be either niña or niño... i guess niñ- is the lexema |
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Declination is the inflection of a noun to describe its grammatical function. The form of the word changes to describe whether it is the subject, object, indirect object, or governed by a preposition. Some languages inflect strongly (Latin, Greek) some weakly (German) and some hardly at all (English). Take the word table in Latin. If you said 'the table is in the corner' the word is mensa. If you said 'I made that table', it would be mensam. If you said 'the legs of that table are blue', it would be mensae and so on. If you were talking to Brutus, and saying 'and you too, Brutus' you would say et tu Brute? because the name declines to reflect the fact you are talking directly to somebody. German does something similar (sometimes). English nouns only decline in the genitive case denoting possession. I like John. I like John's house. The 's is short for es which is a Saxon genitive. What you quoted about Spanish nouns has nothing to do with declension, just word formation and general rules for noun endings associated with genders. This declension doesn't happen in Spanish nouns (but I thought it did in Hebrew ). The only change is from singular to plural, with a plural ending. So nouns decline only with number. Was that any help? Last edited by Perikles; April 24, 2013 at 08:23 AM. |
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Oh my god! you are completely right, I just realized it now!! I did mean the whole time "flexión nominal", jeez!!! somehow the declinación got stuck in my head, because of the conjugación. So after all, the flexión categories for substantivos are género y número, is that true?? and same goes for the adjectives, which are also in the "flexión" category, not declinación, right?? En las lenguas flexivas, el nombre se compone de un lexema o raíz y posiblemente de otros morfemas constituyentes o gramaticales de género, número o caso gramatical. Así un nombre tiene una forma u otra en términos de su género, número y a veces caso. El conjunto de formas de una raíz entre las cuales no existen diferencias semánticas sino sólo gramaticales, todas estas variantes forman la llamada declinación. And since there is no caso gramatical in spanish (or at least in this category), then its only gender and number, right ?? |
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Where's Rusty when you need him? |
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Oh now I am completely confused According to wikipedia, the "flexión nominal en castellano" is "género y número" and there is the example of the cat, gat-a , gat-o, gat-a-s, gat-o-s. What does that mean then?? I dont know who Rusty is, but I hope he comes soon |
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Ah - ok - I was a bit confused. That "flexión nominal en castellano" is not declension (as you said), but I don't know the English expression, because it's irrelevant in English. It seems to be simply the formation of nouns from a lexeme, including the change from singular to plural. It's that simple.
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