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Old June 09, 2010, 06:03 PM
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Haya vs Había vs Hube

Can anyone explain the distinctions between these words?

I've tried to look them up myself but I've gotten nothing but garbage... half of the sites I looked on say it's from the verb "hacer".
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Old June 09, 2010, 06:17 PM
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These look like conjugations to create the perfect tenses: haber + participle
haya + participle : 1st or 3rd person singular present perfect subjunctive
haya hablado: I have spoken...but I think there needs to be some doubt or uncertainty to use the subjunctive
había + participle: 1st or 3rd person singular pluperfect indicative
Había hablado: I had spoken
hube + participle: 1st person preterite perfect indicative(but I didn't think this form was used much anymore)
hube hablado: I had spoken
They may mean more than that but this is what I instantly thought of when I saw your post. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong
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Old June 09, 2010, 06:21 PM
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Haber is the infinitive.

Type in conj:haber in the upper left-hand corner of this site to get all the conjugations of haber. You'll find which tense or mood corresponds to the three words you listed.

Haber is often used much like the helping verb have in English. Type in a verb you're familiar with and look at all the 'perfect' tenses (8-14). Each has a conjugated form of haber with the past participle of the verb you typed.

EDIT: LibraryLady gave good information, as far as I could tell from my brief look.

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I can give you examples and I think that may be easier than explaining
the linguistics of it.
Había una vez= once upon a time.
Hubo un accidente= there was an accident

Haya is the subjunctive of hay and follows the rules of the present subjuctive. Creo que haya Mcha que no lean los periodiódicos.=I think there are many people who may not read the newspapers.
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Haber is the infinitive.

Type in conj:haber in the upper left-hand corner of this site to get all the conjugations of haber. You'll find which tense or mood corresponds to the three words you listed.

Haber is often used much like the helping verb have in English. Type in a verb you're familiar with and look at all the 'perfect' tenses (8-14). Each has a conjugated form of haber with the past participle of the verb you typed.

EDIT: LibraryLady gave good information, as far as I could tell from my brief look.
Rusty, what are the correct tense names? I can't see my mistakes even after looking them up in my verb book.
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I edited my post after you read it. I didn't take the time to look up all the English names, but the Spanish ones are different. Sorry about the confusion.
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No problem. I'm just glad I haven't been learning them by the wrong names
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I know about haber and the past participles already, but my question was on those 3 forms of haber.

So había is sort of like an imperfect? Hube is the past? And haya is the subjunctive?

What about hubería? Is that would have?

Él hubería conducido si había(there were) más semáforos.

Is that correct?
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I don't see those forms you listed in the thread title except in the perfect tenses.
From my understanding they are conjugated differently in the tenses that aren't perfect.
present subjunctive:
Yo/él haga
preterit indicative:
yo hice
él hizo
imprefect indicative:
yo/él hacía
conditional:
yo/él haría

Ok, I think haya habia and hubiera are for the verb Hay
Ojalá que no haya embotellamiento = I hope there won't be a traffic jam.
Ojalá que hubiera piscina en el hotel = I wish there were a pool at the hotel
Habia mucho gente en el parque = There were many people in the park

I hope this helps. I'm starting to confuse myself

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I know about haber and the past participles already, but my question was on those 3 forms of haber.

So había is sort of like an imperfect? Hube is the past? And haya is the subjunctive?

What about hubería? Is that would have?

Él hubería conducido si había(there were) más semáforos.

Is that correct?

"habría" = would have


subjunctive past.

hubiera - hubiese
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