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Old March 17, 2010, 11:23 AM
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Correct, but like in English it should be well punctuated.

Tonight, we´re going to the movies, etc...

Or at least, that's my understanding of the punctuation needed there, that might as well be totally off...
Sí, creo que nos importa la puntuación y tuya es correcta , y también las palabras que especifican un punto del tiempo

mañana , esa noche, etc.
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Old March 18, 2010, 04:10 PM
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Thank you for the excellent replies. I think I am getting this. One small question however:

If I wanted to say "I wonder if they know...", could I simply say "Sabrán...", or "Serán saber...".

Is this okay or do I need to implement "if" (si) somewhere in there?
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Old March 18, 2010, 04:30 PM
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Yes, you can use just "¿Sabrán (que)...?"

You need "if" when you ask: "Me pregunto si sabrán/saben (que)...."

I wonder if they know that Juan is not my name:
- Me pregunto si sabrán/saben que no me llamo Juan.
- ¿Sabrán que no me llamo Juan?


Be careful: "Serán saber" makes no sense in Spanish, but you can say: "¿Será que saben que no me llamo Juan?" (Could it be that they know that my name is not Juan?)
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Old March 18, 2010, 04:43 PM
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Thank you. Also your english is very impressive.

Is there a reason that "Serán saber" makes no sense, or is just one of those things you accept?

Is that to say things like "Seré saber", "Será ir" or "Lo seré hacer" don't make sense either?
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Old March 18, 2010, 05:22 PM
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Thank you. Also your english is very impressive.

Is there a reason that "Serán saber" makes no sense, or is just one of those things you accept?

Is that to say things like "Seré saber", "Será ir" or "Lo seré hacer" don't make sense either?
Since pjt and nobody else answered this in another thread (hilo/hebra)

I know, it's sad to talk to oneself...

Is that form used in English/ or was it ever used?

Will it be better to do this tomorrow...

Será mejor hacer esto mañana...

And I think that's what you want to know...
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Old March 18, 2010, 09:00 PM
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Thank you. Also your english is very impressive.

Is there a reason that "Serán saber" makes no sense, or is just one of those things you accept?

Is that to say things like "Seré saber", "Será ir" or "Lo seré hacer" don't make sense either?
Thank you.

There are usually reasons for everything.

Apart from Chileno's sentence, I can't think of any case in which a conjugated "ser" + a verb in infinitive could make any sense in Spanish.

"Ser" is not an auxiliary verb and it's normally put together with an adjective or a noun:

Seré doctor -> I will be a doctor
Fuimos guapos -> We were handsome
Eran amigas -> They used to be friends
Eres encantadora -> You are charming

If you say "seré saber", "seré ir", you turn those infinitives into nouns, which may be interesting for some kinds of poetry, but not for daily speech.
In the case of "saber", coincidentally, it can actually be a noun in Spanish that means knowledge, so "seré saber" would mean "I will be knowledge", and I think that's not what you want to say.

If you want to put "saber", "ir", "hacer" in future tense, you just have to conjugate each verb: Sabré, irá, lo haré.

I hope this will help.
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Thank you. Also your english is very impressive.

Is there a reason that "Serán saber" makes no sense, or is just one of those things you accept?

Is that to say things like "Seré saber", "Será ir" or "Lo seré hacer" don't make sense either?
Bricks, how are you translating

"Seré saber", "será ir", "lo seré hacer"

If you´re translating it like this, this is the wrong usage of "ser". I think this might be why you´re confused about it

 español  inglés 
 Seré saber  "I am" going to know 
 Será ir  "he is" going to go 
 Lo seré hacer  "I am" going to do it 


If you want to say "I am going" to "verb". Use "ir + a + infinitive", or as Angelica said just the verb conjugated in the future tense.
 español  inglés 
 Voy a saber / sabré  I am going to know 
 Voy a ir / iré  I am going to go 
 Lo voy a hacer / lo haré  I am going to do it 

espero que te sirvan los ejemplos
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I understand very well now. Thank you. bobjenkins, I was referring to "I will be..." as opposed to "I am going to...", but it's okay as Angelica explained it to me.

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Old March 18, 2010, 11:31 PM
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I understand very well now. Thank you. bobjenkins, I was referring to "I will be..." as opposed to "I am going to...", but it's okay as Angelica explained it to me.

Thanks
Please, write in English what you wanted to say.

"I will be" is not enough because "seré ir/hacer" indicates you were thinking of something else or added to it...

On the other hand, it is possible to construct these types of phrases:

¿Será que tiene que ir?

¿Será que hacer esto es mejor que hacer esto otro?

now do you remember my question? (a couple of replies above this one)
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