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Old February 11, 2010, 05:42 AM
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Yes, I know what you mean. People are simplifying language in some areas and perhaps we are losing some richness in "old" English, but young people are certainly creative in their use of language! I don't know if you are from the UK, but look at Catherine Tate's take off of a British teenager for example. The English used there is not the English used a few years ago, but I wouldn't dare say it's incorrect usage. If people use it and communicate with it, it's a language that deserves to be recognised IMO. Or think about rappers, is what they speak a language, is it English, a dialect?? They're happy with it and communicate with it.
Sí, pero hay estándares y siempre ayuda saber usarlos. Si solamente conoce la jerga de su vecindario o su grupo, o la gente de su edad su vida corre el pelígro de ser muy limitada. El resto del mundo le mira como "un tipo" que habla así.
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Old February 11, 2010, 08:19 AM
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Strictly speaking If I were is the more grammatically correct. In real life both (if I were/ if I was) are accepted and many text books now recognise both as being OK.
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Well, I think that is terrible, that a text book could claim if I was is correct. In my mind it is definitely wrong. Why on earth would anyone want to lose the subjunctive, there is precious little of it left in English as it is.
Correct.

As a matter of fact, when I came from Chile, I was using that form but I got "corrected", so that's how I say it.
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Old February 11, 2010, 08:48 AM
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Sí, pero hay estándares y siempre ayuda saber usarlos. Si solamente conoce la jerga de su vecindario o su grupo, o la gente de su edad su vida corre el pelígro de ser muy limitada. El resto del mundo le mira como "un tipo" que habla así.
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Correct.

As a matter of fact, when I came from Chile, I was using that form but I got "corrected", so that's how I say it.
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Old February 11, 2010, 01:21 PM
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Correct.

As a matter of fact, when I came from Chile, I was using that form but I got "corrected", so that's how I say it.
Hola Chileno,
Me podrías decir cual usabas, es decir cual te corrigieron porque no me ha quedado claro (aunque a los demás sí) - If I were or If I was...
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Old February 11, 2010, 01:24 PM
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Yo he entendido que usaba "were", pero mejor que lo aclare él.
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Old February 11, 2010, 01:30 PM
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Sí, pero hay estándares y siempre ayuda saber usarlos. Si solamente conoce la jerga de su vecindario o su grupo, o la gente de su edad su vida corre el pelígro de ser muy limitada. El resto del mundo le mira como "un tipo" que habla así.
Sí, es un poco relacionada con lo que intentaba decir cuando decía que se puede usar estas "idiomas" para marcar diferencias, de clase, de generación etc.
Creo que puede haber un poco de esnobísmo cuando uno habla de esto pensando que el rapero no puede aspirar nunca a ser banquero por ejemplo, pero a su vez, es muy poco probable que un banquero puede ser rapero!!!
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Hola Chileno,
Me podrías decir cual usabas, es decir cual te corrigieron porque no me ha quedado claro (aunque a los demás sí) - If I were or If I was...
Usaba "I were"

As a matter of fact, I said to this girl in which I was interested in, "If I were a king, you would be my queen"

I was taught that in English class in my country.
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Sí, es un poco relacionada con lo que intentaba decir cuando decía que se puede usar estas "idiomas" para marcar diferencias, de clase, de generación etc.
Creo que puede haber un poco de esnobísmo cuando uno habla de esto pensando que el rapero no puede aspirar nunca a ser banquero por ejemplo, pero a su vez, es muy poco probable que un banquero puede ser rapero!!!
A veces es bueno conocer varias formas de decir las cosas, para poderte situar en el papel que quieras. Por ejemplo, si estoy en un barrio de gente humilde, usaré unas palabras que no uso en mi casa.Si hablo con un profesor de la universidad, mi vocabulario será más meditado. Pero al tendero de la esquina no le diré "evidentemente", sino "claro".

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Usaba "I were"

As a matter of fact, I said to this girl in which I was interested in, "If I were a king, you would be my queen"

I was taught that in English class in my country.
So people there don't say "were", but "was". Does anybody say "were"?
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A veces es bueno conocer varias formas de decir las cosas, para poderte situar en el papel que quieras. Por ejemplo, si estoy en un barrio de gente humilde, usaré unas palabras que no uso en mi casa.Si hablo con un profesor de la universidad, mi vocabulario será más meditado. Pero al tendero de la esquina no le diré "evidentemente", sino "claro".



So people there don't say "were", but "was". Does anybody say "were"?
Some will use it. But then I settled with "British speak like that", and that was it for me.
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A veces es bueno conocer varias formas de decir las cosas, para poderte situar en el papel que quieras. Por ejemplo, si estoy en un barrio de gente humilde, usaré unas palabras que no uso en mi casa.Si hablo con un profesor de la universidad, mi vocabulario será más meditado. Pero al tendero de la esquina no le diré "evidentemente", sino "claro".



So people there don't say "were", but "was". Does anybody say "were"?
If I were you, I would.
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