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Hola, ¿cuál es la diferencia entre las ambas?

- ¿Es ya llena?
- No, queremos aún/todavía más agua.

- Aún/todavía la temporada no empieza y la gente están prediciendo los ganadores.

Quizás me dais unos consejos o unas frases en las que son usadas para que yo pueda entender ésas.

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Old August 27, 2009, 05:37 AM
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Hola, ¿cuál es la diferencia entre las ambas?

- ¿Es ya llena?
- No, queremos aún/todavía más agua.(No queremos más agua todavía,
aún(que) hay la posibilidad de sequia.)

- Aún/todavía la temporada no empieza y la gente están prediciendo los ganadores.

Quizás me dais unos consejos o unas frases en las que son usadas para que yo pueda entender ésas.

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Yes they both mean yet, but todavía is much more common, and it is
a negative word that is almost alway accompanied by no.
You would say No lo tengo todavía but not no lo tengo aun
Aún more likely to mean though or even. (¿No tienes ni aun sentido?)-verify this question with native speakers, but I think it's right.

Wait for others to give you good examples of aún. You may find there is
less need for it, aunque is very useful.
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Yes they both mean yet, but todavía is much more common, and it is
a negative word that is almost alway accompanied by no.
You would say No lo tengo todavía but not no lo tengo aun
Aún more likely to mean though or even. (¿No tienes ni aun sentido?)-verify this question with native speakers, but I think it's right.

Wait for others to give you good examples of aún. You may find there is
less need for it, aunque is very useful.

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Aún (with an accent) has the same meaning than "todavía". You can say "aún" at the end of the sentence. You can see it here

http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltCons...BUS=3&LEMA=aun
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Aún (with an accent) has the same meaning than "todavía". You can say "aún" at the end of the sentence. You can see it here

http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltCons...BUS=3&LEMA=aun
Thanks Irma. So you can say "no lo tengo aún" instead of "no lo tengo
todavía." Is this use of aún common. I haven't heard it, or if I did, I missed it.
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Thanks Irma. So you can say "no lo tengo aún" instead of "no lo tengo
todavía." Is this use of aún common. I haven't heard it, or if I did, I missed it.
It's very common. More common todavía, but for example, I use like 60% 'aún' and 40% 'todavía'.
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@Poli: you can say "aún no lo tengo", "no lo tengo aún", "no lo tengo todavía", "todavía no lo tengo" and it would always mean the same, "I don't have it yet".


-- ¿Aún/todavía no terminas el trabajo? (Isn't your work finished yet?)
-- No, todavía/aún me falta escribir un informe. (No, I still have to write a report.)
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Gracias amigos! Hay muchos buenísimos consejos aquí, y por eso os agradezco

Una preguntita.. ¿Cómo se traduciría , "Even though I have no shoes I want to walk to the store."?

Aún/Aunque/A pesar de que no tengo zapatos, yo todavía/aún querría andar a la tienda.

Creo que todas las opciones pueden ser usado en ese caso. Espero tener razón.
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I belive you can use all options but NO 'Aún' at the first choise, it's 'Aunque' or the other, but in the phrase you putted I would say:

Aunque no tengo zapatos quiero caminar a la tienda.


If you add "... no shoes I still want..." then yes, you can use any of those options (I repeat but NO 'Aún at the first choise it's 'Aunque' or the other). I would say:

Aunque no tenga zapatos yo aún quiero caminar a la tienda.

If you say: Aun no tengo zapatos yo todavía quiero caminar a la tienda.
It's like: I still don't have shoes. I still/ Yet I want to walk to the store.
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