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Old March 25, 2010, 12:06 PM
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No es cierto que en Cataluña se enseñe que el castellano es un dialecto del árabe. Otra cosa es que no quieran saber nada del castellano, que es cierto (lo digo por experiencia). Pero nunca jamás he oído que digan que el español viene del árabe. Será que no hay pueblos aquí que empiezan por "Al" y por "Ben" o "Bel".
Really my brother told me that the Spanish coming from Russian, the language was mix up with the Russian language, but I have another opinion about that, the Spanish language coming from Latin, really the Latin were got the English and the Spanish after I read it a magazine time before.

I don't know if it really it true, but well I guess that since the start of the story the language after the holy was created for the Egyptians.

Please, I'd like to know the commentary about that from Irmamar.
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Old March 25, 2010, 12:23 PM
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This is the first time I've heard that Spanish comes from Russian.

As far as I know, Spanish comes from, more or less:

Latin: 60%
Arab: 15%
Greek: 10%
Germanic: 10%
Others: 5%
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Old March 25, 2010, 12:25 PM
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There is a thesis saying the ancient Iberians had come from the actual Georgia ,(formerly a Soviet Union republic) where is a place also called Iberia. That thesis implies the pre-roman iberian languages are related with the actual georgian or some close languages, but today the only language not coming from the Latin in the whole Iberic peninsulae is the Basque. The thesis sill needs further investigation.

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No es cierto que en Cataluña se enseñe que el castellano es un dialecto del árabe. Otra cosa es que no quieran saber nada del castellano, que es cierto (lo digo por experiencia). Pero nunca jamás he oído que digan que el español viene del árabe. Será que no hay pueblos aquí que empiezan por "Al" y por "Ben" o "Bel".

Casi siempre lo hacen veladamente y con indirectas, pero personalmente los he oido llamar a los castellanoparlantes directamente "moros".

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Old March 25, 2010, 12:40 PM
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Ahora estoy aprendiendo. Nunca sabía que había tanta antipatía entre
Castilla y Cataluña, pero hace sentido. Donde hay idiomas distintos
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This is the first time I've heard that Spanish comes from Russian.

As far as I know, Spanish comes from, more or less:

Latin: 60%
Arab: 15%
Greek: 10%
Germanic: 10%
Others: 5%
After you the Spanish coming from a great mix up of severals languages.

I don't think so.
I needed should to have a relation more with the Latin.
Please I'd like a investigation about that, already that now I'm more snuff that before. (Confuse)

In some place should to has an answer to the precedence of the language, the data should more exactly or at least it should a data or year where was created the language.

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Old March 25, 2010, 03:29 PM
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La gran mayoría de los idiomas europeos con excepción del Magiar (Hungaro), el Finlandes y el Vasco proceden del Indoeuropeo, la lengua que se supone hablaban los ários. Esta lengua ha sido "recompuesta" a partir de las lenguas a las que dio lugar como el Latín, el Griego, el Germano o el Celta, de las que proceden los idiomas actuales. Para ello, los lingüístas siguieron el hilo de numerosas palabras que en dichos idiomas tenían raíces comunes, llegando a la conclusión de que tenían que proceder de un tronco común. Además, se dieron cuenta de que en todas esas lenguas eran comunes las raíces correspondientes a ciertos animales y plantas, pero no a otros, buscaron dónde vivían juntos esos animales y esas plantas y descrubrieron que se trata de las llanuras de Asia central, en la actual Rusia. Tal vez sea esa la razón por la que tu hermano te dijo que el Español procedía de Rusia.

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Interesting your contribution.
Where you got that information?
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Casi siempre lo hacen veladamente y con indirectas, pero personalmente los he oido llamar a los castellanoparlantes directamente "moros".
No, no nos llaman moros; nos llaman charnegos.
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No, no nos llaman moros; nos llaman charnegos.
Así es. Pero ya te digo, lo he oído personalmente y en tono burlón. No sé si la persona a quién oí forma parte de una minoría extremista o de una corriente cada vez más mayoritaria. Seguro que en Cataluña hay también gente a la que no le gusta el movimiento independentista. En todo caso, el autor del mensaje a quien contesté tenía, en mi opinión, la intención de sujerir la inferioridad del Castellano o Español frente al Catalán debido a la abundancia de palabras árabes en el mismo. Por eso mi respuesta, fue tal vez, vehemente en exceso. Además creo que seguir por este camino no encaja con la finalidad del foro. Un saludo.
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Old March 26, 2010, 02:13 AM
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Sí, hay de todo. Pero bueno..., la cosa no está muy clara. Aleccionan a los niños de pequeñitos y la mayoría de ellos no hablan español. En los colegios hacen dos horas por semana de castellano, el resto de asignaturas en catalán (todas), y muchos padres evitan que estén en contacto con el castellano. La bandera española se relaciona con ser facha, sólo existe la bandera catalana. En fin, lo que podría llegar a contar...
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