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This thing about the primaries (político en funciones)
The fifth paragraph of a story about primary elections:
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Let me hazard a guess:
político en funciones = incumbent (politician who is currently in office) Can any native speakers confirm or deny this?
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I agree, David.
A politician "en funciones" is currently having a job in a public office. A proposal in English: "[Bennet] is a politician in office who could overcome the kind of challenge that has made some legislators fall in other places (before). [McMahon] is the archetype of the conservative novice who will represent the Republican Party in the campaign for the national elections in November, in which the control of the federal Congress and the governments of 37 states are at stake."
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I also agree, but with one point of emphasis on the fact that "en funciones" clearly indicates that the person referred to is serving temporarily, esp. as a substitute during another's absence; not permanent; temporary.
So, another option is en funciones = acting As in, lo firmó el secretario en funciones = the acting secretary signed it
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Cool, thanks. That sure answers the "político en funciones" part.
What about sucumbir a legisladores en otras partes? Is a an article here? I've never formally studied linguistics, so bear with me for a moment here.I think tipo de reto que ha hecho sucumbir a legisladores en otras partes is a substantive clause, its subject is legisladores, and its predicate is tipo de reto. In English, word order would dictate that the tipo de reto is succumbing to the legisladores. I'm very naive. How are the terms being reversed in the Spanish version? Last edited by droe82; August 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM. |
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@droe: Check post #3 and see if that makes any sense to you.
"A" is a preposition. You can find some explanation on its use before a person here.
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@Droe, if you see post #3, Angelica translated "sucumbir" = fall.
Literally "sucumbir" is "to succumb" and it can also mean "surrender; yield, give in..." "fall victim to". The idea is that Bennet was able to overcome the type of challenge that defeated other legislators, or he overcame the challenges that made other legislators to give in...
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Oh, I see, I see. I thought when it was used like that, it was an article.
I've been meditating on this and being very Zen and I think the Cosmos has revealed to me that hecho is the relevant verb here—not sucumbir. Yea? Nay? |
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Mmm... It could most likely be it.
Hecho = made ha hecho = has made. (When I first started learning English I had to look up every single word in the dictionary... so my reading was not that smooth...) Sometimes when you get better and better, you may have a misunderstood word, but you are not able to locate it... or sometimes there is a word you think you know, but then it means something else (in addition to the other meaning of the word you know.) So, you can always challenge your own understanding and/or ask about ANY word, no matter which one. After 47 years using Spanish I am still learning my own native tongue... so I know I have a ways to go with English... but that's part of the freedom of learning a new language... there is no barriers, no limits!
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But that it's not ha sucumbido is the thing that I think neither I nor Google Translate understood. I'll shut up now.
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