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Exactly, and you start to build from there.
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Already I added my personal list.
I hope exchange a lot of knowledge in the both languages. When are you online?
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I don't understand your method, Chileno. Do you mean that to start it's better to translate word by word? That can be dangerous, and you see what happens to Crotalito (hola cousin ), that he's always translating word by word and he doesn't improve because he hasn't studied English structures. If you start learning a language translating word by word, you'll get vocabulary, surely, but you won't ever be fluent in this language. And a bad learning can be for life, I mean, if you learn something wrong and nobody corrects you, you can have with that mistake for ever.
I agree with Villa completely. Repetition is the best way for learning a language (and grammar, of course). |
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I can learn the language without follow a study plan. I had have conversation with people from another countries and my language and their language are completely the same. I'm not learning the language for teach in any school, I'm learning the language for my tasty to the English and not for another thing. I have could to learn the language in a way that I could do it, literally I have learn the language in my way reading the post of other peoples here in the forums and reading a lot of text written in English. Perhaps I know that I wrote bad sometimes and that anyone correct me as I hope it, but anyway you can see that my English isn't bad, you know, you maybe are teacher and my word are bad used for you in English, it's the same if you go to the United States without knowledge of the language, you surely will learn the language as there is spoken the English, mostly the Mexican and the American speak the language bad as I do it, if you're habited to a way to speak your Spanish without all your structures then I can be sure that you speak your Spanish if that you use methods that you teach in the school or that they was taught you in the school. Therefore, I know that is necessary goes to a school when you need to have a correct methodology in the language when you are studying for teach the language, for my language so as I have could to learn until day, it works for me, because casually the people understand me that it's the most important. And always I'm improving, please you remember this, always I'm improving although I improve bad the words but I do it. You know how much time I delay to write this post, only I delay five minutes thinking that I most write you and I don't revised any dictionary for this.
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Ookami, courageously, has told you something that most of us think but we don't dare to tell you for fear of you get angry. But I agree with him since most of your posts are incomprehensible, both for Spanish and English speakers. I'm not the best to tell you such things, because I'm always making mistakes and my English is not so good as I would like. But I'm going on studying and I hope it'll be better if I make an effort. But let me give you some examples from your post: I can learn the language without follow a study plan. If you had studied some grammar, you would know that an -ing form follows a preposition, so after "without", you should have written "following" (without following). Let me tell you again that I am not the best to tell you these things because this is one of my common mistakes. But if somebody corrects me this, I know why I was wrong. And maybe I would have said "study method" instead of "study plan". I had have conversation You should know that that constructions is not correct "had have", but "have had". And so on. I can find a lot of great mistakes in your posts which make difficult our comprehension. Furthermore, sometimes I don't dare to read your posts because you can spoil my poor English. Forgive me, I don't want to offend you, but I'm sure that if you study hard, following a good method, you'll be able to improve your English. But if you persist in your idea that everybody from other countries speaks English as you do, I am sure that you won't learn anything else. I hope you're not really angry with me. I just want to help you. And it would be easier for me not to tell you anything and let this thread to sink into the oblivion. Última edición por irmamar fecha: May 31, 2010 a las 01:26 AM Razón: pequeña corrección |
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Don't worry my kiddy. Already you know that I never I upset with you never, and thank you I try to follow your grammatic, if that is possible. But meanwhile you take this of my Sincerely yours. My other friend, I have understood everything you have told me before, don't worry I will procure to work in those mistakes that I have had always. Irmamar. Yes it's have had, I'm sorry for my ignorance.
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I will repeat till I die, that if you know something you better use it the best way you can. You are implying that because English phrase structures are sometimes different that those from Spanish they cannot be equated. To me it sounds like if you know how to read and write and understand your language, you have to start from zero in another language. I am sorry, not for me. You see, I didn't get any better with my English because I stayed withing my own level in Spanish, and on purpose, because I am an example of what "cannot" be accomplished...go figure. Not Crotalito's case. |
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@laepelba Well, there is Skype and a lot of programs to speak.
@Crotalito, first of all, you need to start studying basic grammar, because you confuse elemental things that are quite important. Then you can start with oral training, because your vocabulary is good you can skip it's study for now. But just hanging around here, believing you are writing an aceptable English, without studying(in any form you like)... would not make you improve. I think it's time for you to know that a big quantity of your post are incomprehensibles. This is my opinion, I hope I didn't hurt any sensible fiber but it's time for someone to say it.
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Please, don't hesitate to correct my English. 'Time is a sort of river of passing events, and strong is its current; no sooner is a thing brought to sight than it is swept by and another takes its place, and this too will be swept away.' M.A.
Última edición por ookami fecha: May 30, 2010 a las 03:07 PM |
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My post are understanding. Why do you tell me that? What part of the post you didn't understand I'm not a professional.
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I have given my opinion on where you should start your English study in order to improve, orally or not. About the other thing, you can read it as a spoiler:
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Please, don't hesitate to correct my English. 'Time is a sort of river of passing events, and strong is its current; no sooner is a thing brought to sight than it is swept by and another takes its place, and this too will be swept away.' M.A.
Última edición por ookami fecha: May 30, 2010 a las 03:29 PM |
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