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Old February 01, 2010, 05:59 PM
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@Lou Ann: Correct, I think. Irma has already given a good answer to that, and you can see there are some nuances and exceptions. There are also some weather-related expressions that won't admit "hace":

Hace lluvia -> llueve/está lloviendo
Hace nieve -> nieva/está nevando
Hace niebla -> hay niebla/está neblinoso
Hace nubes -> está nublado
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I'm almost sure I have heard the following and it sounds OK to me.
Afuera está muy soleado. ( instead of hay sol, hace sol)
Is it good Spanish?
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Old February 01, 2010, 07:43 PM
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Yes, it is good Spanish.

That's a usual way to say it in weather services, btw.
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I'm almost sure I have heard the following and it sounds OK to me.
Afuera está muy soleado. ( instead of hay sol, hace sol)
Is it good Spanish?
Would you have to say "afuera"? Could it just be "Está muy soleado" or "Está muy soleado hoy"?
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Old February 02, 2010, 06:12 AM
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I'm sure that's right.
Está muy soleado
Hace mucho sol
Hay mucho sol

Hace sol is what they teach (or used to teach) in school, but as you know
in language, there's are many routes you can take in order to achieve the same meaning or there's more than one way to skin a cat or ...
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Old February 02, 2010, 10:52 AM
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@Lou Ann: "afuera" adds an unnecessary emphasis (it's never sunny under a roof), but it's commonly heard.
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Same in English. "It's sunny out." Or, "It's raining out." (Well, duh!) But, yeah, that's what we say. I just wanted to clarify. THANKS!!!
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Same in English. "It's sunny out." Or, "It's raining out." (Well, duh!) But, yeah, that's what we say. I just wanted to clarify. THANKS!!!
Now you are talking! That's the way to get your head through the language "barrier", once you are comfortable with it, then you can tackle grammar.
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Same in English. "It's sunny out." Or, "It's raining out." (Well, duh!) But, yeah, that's what we say. I just wanted to clarify. THANKS!!!
I often say "its raining outside" yes - DUH! but yesterday I thought it wasn't so daft, because we have just had a tropical storm which was so bad it was raining inside as well.

There is always an exception to every statement (except this one ).
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I often say "its raining outside" yes - DUH! but yesterday I thought it wasn't so daft, because we have just had a tropical storm which was so bad it was raining inside as well.

There is always an exception to every statement (except this one ).
Perikles - you and I are SO similar. I love pondering the set of all sets, which can't exist, of course, because it can't be a member of itself. I LOVE MATH!!
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