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Basic: You must crossing the road on the crossings, not near them If you're on a 'level crossing' (railway) then: a: you must follow the pedestrian traffic light b: If there's not pedestrian traffic light, you must follow the car/train traffic light or police officer and cross when the car's are red c: when there's no traffic light any kind, the pedestrian can enter and has priority, but you can only cross having the suitable distance between you and the car (you can't jump in freely) suitable distance: the distance good enough for security as Angelica stated, the "juridiñol" (juridical spanish) is so.... what amazes me is that the 3 rules are specific for "level crossing" (además), but for me are essential ones, for all kinds of crossings. RCL 19341688 Decreto de 25 septiembre 1934 Quote:
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As I stated, the 3 rules are more for a normal crossing as a "level" one.
vehículo can be car or train, but who knows the security distance of a train? It's not well written. I think it should be more like "sin que puedan efectuarlo por las proximidades , especialemente cuando tales pasos sean a nivel, y se observarán además, las reglas siguientes:" Saludos
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Thanks for that! Last edited by Perikles; January 10, 2011 at 06:28 AM. |
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I'm a little mareado by this time. What problem?
You have pasos a nivel where cars and pedestrians share the same way. Out of cities and towns is uncommon to have sidewalks and the scarce pedestrians use the banquinas (berms?) always facing the transit for security reasons -left banquina-. Well, when you arrive to a paso a nivel usually the banquina disappears and the pedestrian has to step into the central pavement (like the one in that photo). Incisos b) and c) refer to that kind of crossings.
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Never mind, I think we should move on.... |
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First of all, a paso a nivel is the intersection of a railroad -where the train won't stop; at most will honk- with a transverse way for automobiles and/or pedestrians and/or tracción a sangre -that's why it's called paso, not because of the railroad-. The whole intersections is in the same level so the trains, cars and mammals will have similar coordinate in the z axis -that's why it's called a nivel-. b) and c) are regulating how pedestrians and assorted vehicles must behave while using and sharing the crossing, that is, while there's no train in sight I hope you'll realize you depicted in your mind a wrong 90° crossing for pedestrians and cars and obstinately obstinately obstinately obstinately obstinately obstinately tried to adapt what you read to that wrong idea. If you can't dispel that wrong image, try to imagine people and cars sharing a ford on a shallow part of one of those tiny little things they call rivers in Europe.
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My question is, an always was: do rules a, b and c relate to all crossings, or only to pasos a nivel . ??? Logically, they relate to all crossings, but grammatically, only to pasos a nivel, which makes no sense. Have some pity on me. Does anybody understand my simple question? |
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There isn't a single mention of railway here... When irma mentioned it, I thought to myself it must a Spain thing... As to your translation I would change "in their vicinity" for "in the vicinity"? Else, your translation is eggcellent. EDIT: fixed a misspelling and added the following: Maybe "in its vicinity" meaning the vicinity of the pedestrian crossing. Last edited by chileno; January 10, 2011 at 09:10 PM. |
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Oh! Oh!
"pasos sean a nivel" is a description of a generic concept while "paso a nivel (con o sin barrera)" end up associated with railroads. The title of the article -something missing in the question?- is "pasos para peatones..." so "pasos que sean a nivel" doesn't mean "pasos a nivel" but "pasos para peatones que son a nivel" (y no son los peatones los que son a nivel, pues los hay muy pedestres). Who would've said that a little context would solve it.
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