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Old September 21, 2011, 02:53 PM
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Contar con

to count on?

consists of?
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contar con:
To count on
To rely on
To expect
To have


consist of = constar de

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constar con:
To count on
To rely on
To expect
To have


consist of = cons]tar de
¿No?
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Oops! Typo corrected. Thanks!
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Old September 22, 2011, 07:15 AM
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Please have a look at this article:
http://blogs.elpais.com/periodismo-con-futuro/

Pay particular attention to : "the Guardian ya cuenta con una sección dedicada a las elecciones de 2012" I think cuenta con means
contains. I've seen it elsewhere where it appears to mean consists of.
I have always known cuentar con to mean to count on. I wonder if this
is Spain specific.
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The Guardian now has a section dedicated to the 2012 elections.
'Contains' is a good equivalent of 'has', in this case. (The dictionaries I consulted gave 'have'.)
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Please have a look at this article:
http://blogs.elpais.com/periodismo-con-futuro/

Pay particular attention to : "the Guardian ya cuenta con una sección dedicada a las elecciones de 2012" I think cuenta con means
contains. I've seen it elsewhere where it appears to mean consists of.
I have always known cuentar con to mean to count on. I wonder if this
is Spain specific.
In this case I think "counts with" fits perfectly.
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That's the transliteration of 'cuenta con', to be sure, but 'counts with' doesn't fit in this sentence.
We 'count with' our fingers, or other items we can use as markers. We 'count on' someone or something.
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So, it contar con used outside of Spain to mean to contain/ to consist of?
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'To contain', yes. I don't believe it means 'to consist of', in Spain or anywhere else. These verbs have different meanings (in English and Spanish).

constar de = tener determinadas partes

I'm seeing 'contains' and 'consists of' in constar de. I see 'has' in contar con (but agree that a paper can contain (can have) a new section).

consist of = to be composed of; to be formed of

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